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Old 05-18-2013, 02:56 AM   #1101
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Just found this thread today, and made it all the way to post #803. It's 10:55PM EST, and I'm going to pick this up tomorrow.

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Old 05-19-2013, 02:04 AM   #1102
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Now that I'm caught up to post #1101, my only question for you, HBHoss, is: How much beer have you sold in the last four years?

I guess what I want to understand is, "if I live in a state where I can self-distribute, how much beer do I need to sell to break even?"


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Old 05-19-2013, 03:37 PM   #1103
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Honestly, if you wait that long before you start, you're losing a lot of time and potential sales. The amount of time, money, and effort to get started cannot be understated. The red tape is long, and during the arduous road to licensing you will have time to approach bars for distribution. Having a timeline to actual sale will also separate those giving you lip service from those seriously interested in your product.
Agreed. Go for it. It's like waiting to buy a computer. You just have to jump in and do it because there will always be a reason to wait for the next one.
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Old 05-19-2013, 03:42 PM   #1104
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Now that I'm caught up to post #1101, my only question for you, HBHoss, is: How much beer have you sold in the last four years?

I guess what I want to understand is, "if I live in a state where I can self-distribute, how much beer do I need to sell to break even?"
I honestly couldn't say how much you would need to sell because your expenses and overhead will be different than mine. As to how much beer I've sold, I'd have to go through my records but it's not enough.
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Old 05-19-2013, 03:49 PM   #1105
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Do you mind posting a list of your sources for equipment and ingredients?
I get my stuff from various sources, but if I had to narrow it down I would say G.W. Kent for hardware as well as Foxx Equip. Co. Foxx you have to have a business license but not G.W.Kent. As for materials, my bulk grain, and some misc stuff, I get through Brewmaster in Hayward CA. Smaller orders I'll go through More Beer or other online company.
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Old 05-19-2013, 03:58 PM   #1106
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Had a great time at the West Coast Brew Fest. Good turn out and lots of compliments. It was good to meet a fellow HBTr.

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Old 05-21-2013, 06:58 PM   #1107
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Great thread. I really want to do this before I am 30 and am planning it now, but I need to move out of Florida first. Thank you so much for posting your journey. I am glad to hear that this can be done with a 1 BBL or smaller setup. This thread answered many questions I had that a lot of books I have read didn't answer. From this it seems that it is cheaper and more economical to bottle your beer which I find appealing. I have a couple of questions that weren't specifically addressed.

1. How long does it take to go from grain to glass for your beers?
2. How much beer do you keep on hand at any given time?
3. Related, how much beer did you have on hand prior to starting?
4. Do you force carbonate your beer before bottling? If so, do you transfer into a
into a sanke keg and then carb? Also, how much would you say c02 runs you per
month?
5. How many types of beer do you make?
6. Did your electricity/water bill increase substantially per month brewing at this
scale?
7. Do you treat your brewing water, or is it good enough unfiltered.

Sorry for the overwhelming amount of questions! This thread is so inspirational, and I am so happy that it is working out so well for you!
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Old 05-21-2013, 07:55 PM   #1108
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Great thread. I really want to do this before I am 30 and am planning it now, but I need to move out of Florida first. Thank you so much for posting your journey. I am glad to hear that this can be done with a 1 BBL or smaller setup. This thread answered many questions I had that a lot of books I have read didn't answer. From this it seems that it is cheaper and more economical to bottle your beer which I find appealing. I have a couple of questions that weren't specifically addressed.

1. How long does it take to go from grain to glass for your beers?
2. How much beer do you keep on hand at any given time?
3. Related, how much beer did you have on hand prior to starting?
4. Do you force carbonate your beer before bottling? If so, do you transfer into a
into a sanke keg and then carb? Also, how much would you say c02 runs you per
month?
5. How many types of beer do you make?
6. Did your electricity/water bill increase substantially per month brewing at this
scale?
7. Do you treat your brewing water, or is it good enough unfiltered.

Sorry for the overwhelming amount of questions! This thread is so inspirational, and I am so happy that it is working out so well for you!
Thank you for reading about my adventure.
As for your questions, I'll do my best to answer them.
1. Anywhere from 2 weeks to a month.
2. I try to keep as little as possible so it depends on sales and how thirsty I am.
3. I don't think I had any in stock.
4. Yes and yes. I actually use corney kegs more than sanke.
5. I have about 6-8 in rotation but I'm constantly tweeking and changing recipes.
6. Not that I noticed. I don't have a water bill because I'm on a well.
7. My water is from 400 ft down so it's naturally filtered.
Good luck!!!
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HB thanks so much for the information! Enjoy living the dream man!
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Old 05-31-2013, 01:04 PM   #1110
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Congrats on the brewery and taking it to the next step. I am also thinking about doing the same thing here in Maine. Thank you for posting and sharing your story it has helped a great deal. I do have a few questions.

How hard was it to get your brewer notice approved? Did they come inspect the brewery?
It sounds like you got approve before it was complete.

I see it the TTB rule the brewery can't be located in any dwelling house. but that all I can find. Do you know if there are other restriction?

25.21 Restrictions on location.
A brewery may not be established or operated in any dwelling house ....

Has anyone got approved using the attached garage or basement?

Did you have to get another license or permit to sell from another location?

What was the $400 upfront tax for?

Thanks Again Cheers
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