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Old 09-09-2009, 02:20 PM   #1
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<edit - I moved my updates back to my original post. I think I'm going to brew this as is, to see where I'm at and tweak it from there for future batches. Unless anyone sees any showstoppers>

Here's the updated version as of right now... If I was to add sugar in this to dry it out, how much, what type, table? and when in the process?

Recipe: YSBC DIPA
Brewer: Janzik
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Style: Imperial IPA
TYPE: All Grain


Recipe Specifications
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Batch Size: 5.50 gal
Boil Size: 7.00 gal
Estimated OG: 1.084 SG
Estimated Color: 10.7 SRM
Estimated IBU: 133.1 IBU
Brewhouse Efficiency: 80.00 %
Boil Time: 90 Minutes

Ingredients:
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Amount Item Type % or IBU
14 lbs Pale Malt (2 Row) US (2.0 SRM) Grain 87.50 %
1 lbs Caramel/Crystal Malt - 60L (60.0 SRM) Grain 6.25 %
1 lbs Munich Malt (9.0 SRM) Grain 6.25 %
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1.00 oz Nugget [13.00 %] (60 min) Hops 35.2 IBU
1.00 oz Columbus (Tomahawk) [14.00 %] (60 min) Hops 37.9 IBU

1.00 oz Nugget [13.00 %] (15 min) Hops 17.4 IBU
1.00 oz Columbus (Tomahawk) [14.20 %] (15 min) Hops 19.1 IBU
1.00 oz Centennial [8.50 %] (15 min) Hops 11.4 IBU

1.00 oz Centennial [8.50 %] (5 min) Hops 4.6 IBU
1.00 oz Columbus (Tomahawk) [14.00 %] (5 min) Hops 7.5 IBU

1.00 oz Amarillo Gold [8.50 %] (Dry Hop 14 days) Hops -
1.00 oz Centennial [10.00 %] (Dry Hop 14 days) Hops

1 Pkgs California Ale (White Labs #WLP001) [StartYeast-Ale


Mash Schedule: Single Infusion, Full Body, No Mash Out
Total Grain Weight: 16.00 lb
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Single Infusion, Full Body, No Mash Out
Step Time Name Description Step Temp
90 min Mash In Add 20.00 qt of water at 162.5 F 151.0 F
<original post below>
Since I've got 13lbs of hops coming my way, I wanted to finally put together a nice hop bomb. I'm new to the recipe construction phase, and it started off as what I use for my IPA and I just started adding and moving stuff around and the whatnot. I'm open to any suggestions.
<edit>I'm not set on any specific ingredients, I'd like to use Columbus and Nugget at the minimum, and no, I don't have any simcoe in stock, saq

I've got Amarillo, Cascade, Centennial, Chinook, Columbus, Crystal, Magnum, Nugget, Williamette
Grains: 20, 40, 60, CaraPils, Munich and Vienna, but I can get something else if need be
</edit>

Recipe: YSBC DIPA
Brewer: Janzik
Asst Brewer:
Style: Imperial IPA
TYPE: All Grain


Recipe Specifications
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Batch Size: 5.50 gal
Boil Size: 7.00 gal
Estimated OG: 1.084 SG
Estimated Color: 15.2 SRM
Estimated IBU: 133.3 IBU
Brewhouse Efficiency: 80.00 %
Boil Time: 90 Minutes

Ingredients:
------------
Amount Item Type % or IBU
12 lbs Pale Malt (2 Row) US (2.0 SRM) Grain 75.00 %
2 lbs Caramel/Crystal Malt - 60L (60.0 SRM) Grain 12.50 %
2 lbs Munich Malt (9.0 SRM) Grain 12.50 %
1.00 oz Amarillo Gold [8.50 %] (Dry Hop 14 days) Hops -
1.00 oz Centennial [10.00 %] (Dry Hop 14 days) Hops -
1.00 oz Nugget [13.00 %] (60 min) Hops 35.2 IBU
1.00 oz Columbus (Tomahawk) [14.00 %] (60 min) Hops 37.9 IBU
1.00 oz Columbus (Tomahawk) [14.20 %] (15 min) Hops 19.1 IBU
1.00 oz Centennial [8.50 %] (15 min) Hops 11.4 IBU
1.00 oz Nugget [13.00 %] (15 min) Hops 17.5 IBU
1.00 oz Centennial [8.50 %] (5 min) Hops 4.6 IBU
1.00 oz Columbus (Tomahawk) [14.00 %] (5 min) Hops 7.6 IBU
1 Pkgs California Ale (White Labs #WLP001) [StartYeast-Ale


Mash Schedule: Single Infusion, Full Body, No Mash Out
Total Grain Weight: 16.00 lb
----------------------------
Single Infusion, Full Body, No Mash Out
Step Time Name Description Step Temp
90 min Mash In Add 20.00 qt of water at 162.5 F 153F

<edit>I may change this to 14lbs of 2 row and 1lb each of 60 and munich</edit>


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Old 09-09-2009, 02:51 PM   #2
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I would cut the crystal and munich to 1# each and add more pale or even sugar. It's gonna be on the sweet side as is but YMMV.


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Old 09-10-2009, 06:15 PM   #3
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I'd drop the Crystal and Munich down to 5% and mash at 151*F. Otherwise ... ship it.
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Old 09-10-2009, 07:15 PM   #4
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I too would cut the crystal. 2#'s Munich won't hurt though if you like that character.

For my tastes I think this would produce too sweet a beer. I'd add some sugar, and a low mash temp.

Keep in mind, the hop resins from 9oz's of hops will add a lot of body and mouthfeel.
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As said above. I would add some sugar just to dry it out a little
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Ok, so I've updated it to..

14 lbs Pale Malt (2 Row) US (2.0 SRM) Grain 87.50 %
1 lbs Caramel/Crystal Malt - 60L (60.0 SRM) Grain 6.25 %
1 lbs Munich Malt (9.0 SRM) Grain 6.25 %

Mash at 151

keeping the same hop schedule.

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I would still cut 1# of pale and replace with sugar IMHO
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Looks good on they crystal now. You really do need some sugar in such a big beer to help dry it out. Otherwise, it will finish too high and be too syrupy.
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Here's the updated version as of right now... If I was to add sugar in this to dry it out, how much, what type, table? and when in the process?

Recipe: YSBC DIPA
Brewer: Janzik
Asst Brewer:
Style: Imperial IPA
TYPE: All Grain


Recipe Specifications
--------------------------
Batch Size: 5.50 gal
Boil Size: 7.00 gal
Estimated OG: 1.084 SG
Estimated Color: 10.7 SRM
Estimated IBU: 133.1 IBU
Brewhouse Efficiency: 80.00 %
Boil Time: 90 Minutes

Ingredients:
------------
Amount Item Type % or IBU
14 lbs Pale Malt (2 Row) US (2.0 SRM) Grain 87.50 %
1 lbs Caramel/Crystal Malt - 60L (60.0 SRM) Grain 6.25 %
1 lbs Munich Malt (9.0 SRM) Grain 6.25 %
-
1.00 oz Nugget [13.00 %] (60 min) Hops 35.2 IBU
1.00 oz Columbus (Tomahawk) [14.00 %] (60 min) Hops 37.9 IBU

1.00 oz Nugget [13.00 %] (15 min) Hops 17.4 IBU
1.00 oz Columbus (Tomahawk) [14.20 %] (15 min) Hops 19.1 IBU
1.00 oz Centennial [8.50 %] (15 min) Hops 11.4 IBU

1.00 oz Centennial [8.50 %] (5 min) Hops 4.6 IBU
1.00 oz Columbus (Tomahawk) [14.00 %] (5 min) Hops 7.5 IBU

1.00 oz Amarillo Gold [8.50 %] (Dry Hop 14 days) Hops -
1.00 oz Centennial [10.00 %] (Dry Hop 14 days) Hops

1 Pkgs California Ale (White Labs #WLP001) [StartYeast-Ale


Mash Schedule: Single Infusion, Full Body, No Mash Out
Total Grain Weight: 16.00 lb
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Single Infusion, Full Body, No Mash Out
Step Time Name Description Step Temp
90 min Mash In Add 20.00 qt of water at 162.5 F 151.0 F
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I'm not a huge fan of Nugget. In my experience even as a bittering hop there's too much of a grassy flavor it imparts to the beer. I'd go with some Galena or Simcoe.


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