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Old 09-05-2009, 11:54 PM   #1
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So i made a batch of hefenwizen and its in its bottling state right now. after being bottled for 7 days i took one of them and threw it in the frig overnight, the next day when i tried it it tasted pretty bad. It is now been 14 days since bottling, and im pretty scared to try another bottle. How much longer should I keep them before giving up? This IS my first batch, and it was a very simple. But it seems like everyone messes up their first batch of beer. Anyway, the color of the beer looks amazing, looks spot on to haywire.

 
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Old 09-06-2009, 12:04 AM   #2
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Hardly anyone messes up their first batch of beer, they just think they do.
How long was your fermentation? You might as well give us the recipe and the starting and finishing gravity readings if you want an educated response.
You never give up on beer, time is your friend and so is abundant patience.

 
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Old 09-06-2009, 12:27 AM   #3
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7lbs. Wheat Malt Extract
8 oz Wheat Malt, milled
8 oz Vienna malt, milled
1 oz Hallertau hop pellets for bittering
Hefeweizen Yeast (White Labs #WLP300 & WLP380

I fermented for 14 days

Targeted :
O.G = 1.046 - 1.048
F.G. = 1.008 - 1.010
ABV = 4.9%

Before pitching = 1.050
Right before bottleing = 1.015

 
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Old 09-06-2009, 12:34 AM   #4
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What is the "pretty bad" taste? Other than low attenuation, I see no glaring problems, you may want to ferment a little longer next time.

 
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Old 09-06-2009, 12:44 AM   #5
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Well I couldn't drink it, as in my taste buds rejected it, hah. Since im such a noob at this, theres no way i can explain what the flavor is.. Do you think i should try another one see how its been 1 week since i tried the first one?
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Old 09-06-2009, 12:58 AM   #6
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I can't taste through your taste buds, so, next time you do taste it you might have a commercial sample of the same style to sample with it, take notice of the differences between them. Take note of any other flavors, strong or subtle, is it sour, is it sweet, is it carbonated, is there a strong alcoholic bite, is it smooth, etc, etc. This is how we learn. Do the same thing in another week.

Wheat beers usually do not take months to become drinkeable, however I haven't tried any that have not been fermented for 3 weeks min. and bottled for two.

 
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Old 09-06-2009, 01:13 AM   #7
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The idea of a side by side comparison with a commercial example is a good one.
You may also want to check out How to Brew - By John Palmer - Common Off-Flavors which describes most of the common off flavors, and also gives the most likely causes. Perhaps with the descriptions, you could identify the problem.

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Old 09-06-2009, 02:05 AM   #8
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Well I couldn't drink it, as in my taste buds rejected it, hah. Since im such a noob at this, theres no way i can explain what the flavor is..
I did some searching, but can't find it right now... There's a great "off-taste aid" on this site which gives you an idea of how to explain how your brew tastes. I wanna say YooperBrew posted it recently, but I've been wrong before.

Take a look at these links, which do a pretty good job of teaching you how to explain yourself when talking about off flavors:

Fermentarium.com - "Why does my beer taste bad?" (Part 1) (Part 2) (Part 3)

That, plus the Palmer link above, should give you an idea of how to explain yourself on this site. That chart I'm looking for, though, that has a TON of flavor hints! Can't believe I can't Google it...
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Old 09-06-2009, 02:15 AM   #9
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You drank green beer......at only a week, most people find their beer tastes pretty nasty...I betcha did nothing wrong....ANd even more that if you wait antoher 2-3 weeks when your beer has finished conditioning it will taste great....

I don't recommend anyone stress about any tastes they find until it's even been 6 weeks in the bottle...The beer has a big journey to go through still, it's called bottle conditioning.

I have a pretty detailed blog about this here; Revvy's Blog; Of Patience and Bottle Conditioning.

After the beer passes a window of at least 3 weeks (since yours is a hefe) but about 6 for stronger ales, THEN if the flavor has not goen away or re-ceeded, THEN we can look to see what caused the off flavor, using a flavor wheel or a chart...but while the beer is green, it can mimic many of those off flavors....except if it is green, they fade away.

You also asked about when you give up on a beer? I say not for several months...read the stories in here and you'll get the idea..http://www.homebrewtalk.com/f39/neve...en-beer-73254/

But seriously, I bet that in 3 weeks you'll come back and say "Wow, did I jump the gun, this tastes awesome."

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Old 09-06-2009, 06:09 PM   #10
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Damn guys, I was really taken back by the dedication you all have to this website, and it means a lot that you all took the time to write be back with some great responses. I will research the bad taste and also keep this thread updated within the next few weeks. Hopefully my brew is green!
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