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Old 08-28-2009, 05:45 PM   #1
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OK, so I threw this into beersmith, but why is the OG different?
jamil's- OG 1.056, FG 1.016, ABV 5.2%
in beersmith-OG 1.071, FG 1.017, abv 7.06%.
is this right? what am i doing wrong?
thanks for your help, here's the recipe:

pumpkin spice beer
Spice, Herb, or Vegetable Beer


Type: Extract
Date: 8/28/2009
Batch Size: 5.00 gal
Boil Size: 6.00 gal Asst Brewer:
Boil Time: 60 min Equipment: Brew Pot (6+gal) and Igloo/Gott Cooler (5 Gal)
Taste Rating(out of 50): 35.0 Brewhouse Efficiency: -
Taste Notes:

Ingredients

Amount Item Type % or IBU
3.58 kg Light Dry Extract (8.0 SRM) Dry Extract 81.79 %
0.23 kg Aromatic Malt (26.0 SRM) Grain 5.25 %
0.23 kg Caramel/Crystal Malt - 40L (40.0 SRM) Grain 5.19 %
0.23 kg Caramel/Crystal Malt -120L (120.0 SRM) Grain 5.19 %
0.11 kg Special Roast (50.0 SRM) Grain 2.58 %
34.00 gm Goldings, East Kent [5.00 %] (60 min) Hops 18.5 IBU
1 Pkgs Nottingham (Danstar #-) Yeast-Ale



Beer Profile

Est Original Gravity: 1.071 SG
Measured Original Gravity: 1.010 SG
Est Final Gravity: 1.017 SG Measured Final Gravity: 1.005 SG
Estimated Alcohol by Vol: 7.06 % Actual Alcohol by Vol: 0.65 %
Bitterness: 18.5 IBU Calories: 43 cal/pint
Est Color: 16.7 SRM Color: Color


Mash Profile

Mash Name: None Total Grain Weight: 4.54 kg
Sparge Water: - Grain Temperature: -
Sparge Temperature: - TunTemperature: -
Adjust Temp for Equipment: FALSE Mash PH: -

Steep grains as desired (30-60 minutes)



 
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Old 08-28-2009, 05:54 PM   #2
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His recipes are 6 gallon batches.



 
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Old 08-28-2009, 05:55 PM   #3
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It's 6 gallons at 70% eff.
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Old 08-28-2009, 06:47 PM   #4
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sweet. thanks, that makes sense. so how could I modify this for a 5 gallon batch?

 
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Old 08-28-2009, 06:50 PM   #5
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sweet. thanks, that makes sense. so how could I modify this for a 5 gallon batch?
Are you using a recipe software like Beersmith, if so you can adjust pretty easily, if not you should, but I can adjust it for you.
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Old 08-28-2009, 06:53 PM   #6
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yes, I'm in beersmith, but I'm not sure how to do the adjustments

 
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Old 08-28-2009, 06:57 PM   #7
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In Beersmith, have the recipe in with the correct amounts (6 gallons, 70%), and then right above the words "Recipe View" is a button that says "Scale". click that, and enter the new Batch Size and Efficiency, it will then change it all to make it correct.
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Old 08-28-2009, 07:05 PM   #8
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thanks so much! OK, i think I did it. I still am very green, and have no idea my efficiency, or really how to calculate it. could i just leave it at 70% for now, and will that get me in the ballpark? and is a 6 gallon boil for a 5 gallon batch about right?
here's what it gave me:

pumpkin spice beer
Spice, Herb, or Vegetable Beer


Type: Extract
Date: 8/28/2009
Batch Size: 5.00 gal
Boil Size: 6.00 gal Asst Brewer:
Boil Time: 60 min Equipment: Brew Pot (6+gal) and Igloo/Gott Cooler (5 Gal)
Taste Rating(out of 50): 35.0 Brewhouse Efficiency: -
Taste Notes:

Ingredients

Amount Item Type % or IBU
2.98 kg Light Dry Extract (8.0 SRM) Dry Extract 81.79 %
0.19 kg Aromatic Malt (26.0 SRM) Grain 5.25 %
0.19 kg Caramel/Crystal Malt - 40L (40.0 SRM) Grain 5.19 %
0.19 kg Caramel/Crystal Malt -120L (120.0 SRM) Grain 5.19 %
0.09 kg Special Roast (50.0 SRM) Grain 2.58 %
27.96 gm Goldings, East Kent [5.00 %] (60 min) Hops 16.7 IBU
1 Pkgs Nottingham (Danstar #-) Yeast-Ale



Beer Profile

Est Original Gravity: 1.059 SG
Measured Original Gravity: 1.010 SG
Est Final Gravity: 1.014 SG Measured Final Gravity: 1.005 SG
Estimated Alcohol by Vol: 5.85 % Actual Alcohol by Vol: 0.65 %
Bitterness: 16.7 IBU Calories: 43 cal/pint
Est Color: 14.7 SRM Color: Color


Mash Profile

Mash Name: None Total Grain Weight: 4.54 kg
Sparge Water: - Grain Temperature: -
Sparge Temperature: - TunTemperature: -
Adjust Temp for Equipment: FALSE Mash PH: -

Steep grains as desired (30-60 minutes)



Mash Notes: -

 
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Old 08-28-2009, 07:17 PM   #9
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Just leave it at 70%. It is not important since you are using extract. That is only important for all grain.

He is using 6 gallons batches, staring with (roughly) 7 gallons prior to the boil, 6 gallons after the boil, ferment 5.5 gallons, and finally package 5 gallons.

But, yes start with 6 gallons to have 5 gallons at the end of the boil. The scaled recipe you posted looks good.


 
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Old 08-28-2009, 07:20 PM   #10
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That looks right, if your getting your grain crushed at the homebrew store, you would probably going to be in the 70% range anyway, since most homebrew stores mills are set to allow a good balance between lauterability and efficiency, and for extract it really doesn't matter.

The recipes in that book are set up for 6 gallons for a few reasons. 6 gallons at the end of the boil lets you leave behind about .5 gallon in the kettle with the hops and break material. It also allows to leave behind another .5 gallon in the fermenter so you end up bottling/kegging 5 gallons of beer.


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