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Old 11-04-2009, 10:53 PM   #481
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It was not disproved. It wasn't proven.
The NFL, by it's own admission, destroyed all information regarding the Pariots investigation after they issued the fine. So perhaps now, it can never be independently substantiated.
wronnnnnnggggggg... there was never any tapes or any other evidence of that whole Super Bowl crap.

The league confiscated the regular season tapes and destroyed them.

ALTHOUGH.. maybe they didn't!

Maybe there the guy on the grassy knoll did!!!
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Are you capable of that?
Absolutely..

unless it is on this thread or I'm talking with PaultheNurse (who is a friend of a friends), I'm always civilized. I'm not like this on "normal" threads.
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Old 11-04-2009, 11:06 PM   #483
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From Gregg Easterbrook:

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This weekend, in an e-mail exchange with NFL spokesman Greg Aiello, I asked twice whether the Patriots' documents contained evidence of cheating in the Super Bowl, and Aiello twice declined to either confirm or deny the existence of such evidence. The first time, he changed the subject with a detailed response about the original penalty; and the second time, after I protested he hadn't answered my questions, he replied, "I did answer your questions to the extent I'm going to answer them."
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Here is a timeline of events so far:

Sunday, Sept. 9: During the Patriots-Jets season opener, security officers seize a video camera a team official on the New England sideline was using to film signal-calling on the New York sideline. NFL rules forbid filming the opponents' sideline or recording opponents' signal calling. Clubs had been reminded of this prohibition by a strongly worded directive sent from league headquarters in September 2006.


Thursday, Sept. 13: Commissioner Goodell declares the Patriots guilty of "a calculated and deliberate attempt to avoid long-standing rules designed to encourage fair play and promote honest competition on the playing field." He imposes on New England the strongest penalty in NFL history: loss of a first-round pick (if the Pats make the playoffs), or second- and third-round choices in the 2008 draft (if New England fails to reach the postseason); a $500,000 personal fine against Belichick; and a $250,000 club fine. Goodell orders the Patriots to turn over all videotapes and other materials obtained in violation of NFL rules, although this part of his decision is not publicly announced.



Sunday morning, Sept. 16: On ESPN, Chris Mortensen reports Goodell's directive that the Patriots surrender all videotapes and notes containing cheating materials.



Sunday evening, Sept. 16: On NBC's "Football Night in America," Goodell says New England has not yet complied with his order to surrender all illegal materials, adding the Patriots will be penalized more if the materials don't arrive soon.



Monday, Sept. 17: Asked whether he will surrender videotapes and notes to the league, Belichick answers, "Of course." Asked by The Boston Globe whether NFL headquarters has received the Patriots' materials, Aiello answers, "We don't have anything else on the matter to report right now."



Sometime between Monday night, Sept. 17, and Thursday afternoon, Sept. 20: The New England materials arrive at league headquarters.



Thursday night, Sept. 20: The NFL announces all of the Patriots' materials have been destroyed, disclosing nothing about their contents.



The history of scandals teaches us that when the point is reached that everything has come out, then the principals apologize in public and tell all. When the point has not yet been reached that everything has come out, there is usually stonewalling, denial and weird Nixonian/Clintonesque statements. The destruction of evidence and the lack of answers about what the evidence contained, leaves me wondering if there is something very important about the Patriots' spying scandal that has not yet come out.
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Old 11-04-2009, 11:15 PM   #484
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So... in that entire piece, the only accusation you have was made by Gregg Easterbrook... who, by any measure was the absolute most hysterical lunatic on the planet over this entire situation??

Ok... how did the Pats cheat during the Super Bowl? You're theory is they had guys on the sidelines, filming signals, DURING the Super Bowl???

The Pats got whacked for filming signals, at Gillette Stadium, from their own sideline, how do you think they supposedly did it at the Super Bowl?

And what exactly do you think was ON those tapes?? Bill Polian, of the COLTS, by far the Pats biggest rival during that time frame even came out and said there was no smoking gun here and that people were freaking out over nothing.

But Gregg Easterbrook is right?

But again... what do you think was on those tapes?? What? Is Belichick clubbing baby seals???

"Did you tape signals?"
"Yes"
"I DON'T BELEIVE YOU!! I WANT TO SEE THE TAPES!"
"I just told you we did it"
"I'll be the judge of that!!... Aaaaaa HA!!! Right THERE!! You're filming signals!!"
"I know I just told you we did"
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Old 11-04-2009, 11:17 PM   #485
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What? Is Belichick clubbing baby seals???
Can I add this to my signature?
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The Pats were at the absolute top of the league.
Belichick is a smug jerk becuase he doesn't give a rats azz if fans of other teams "like him".
Brady is a pretty-boy who does modeling gigs for GQ.

All of the above makes them the absolute perfect target for everyone to hate them with a passion... and that's cool, I can dig that... but like I was saying a few posts ago...

The Phillies have admitted to stealing signs in baseball for years... no one says a word. The Pats used a camera instead of a notebook and we're sitting here debating it four years after the fact.... with massive conspiracy theories and everything.
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Can I add this to my signature?
Absolutely....
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I think unnecessary puctuation and excessive capitalization is a sign of hysterical lunacy.

Let me break it down for Patriot fan level comprehension:

1) Allegations of cheating in Superbowl.
2) NFL won't confirm that evidence collected contains evidence of cheating in the Super Bowl and won't DENY it either.
3) NFL promptly destroys collected evidence.


Statements by those (Bill Polian) that have a vested interest in making sure that the NFL investigation- and by extension the fatted Cash Cow called the NFL- is not seen as a sham is evidence of nothing.
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Old 11-04-2009, 11:30 PM   #489
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Let me break it down for Patriot fan level comprehension:
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Old 11-04-2009, 11:31 PM   #490
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Just to be clear, you're making an assumption of guilt, then?

That sounds fair.
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