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Old 02-07-2011, 07:36 PM   #4251
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I would hate and love an 18 game season. I'd love 2 more weeks of real football. I'd hate to see more of my favorite players go down with serious or career-ending injuries. And quitting isn't as easy as it sounds. Ask Barry Sanders.

 
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Old 02-07-2011, 07:37 PM   #4252
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Whoever in this thread that said the Packers would need only 60 yards of rushing to win was spot on.

Pack got 50.
Gave up like 5.5/carry, too. Guess the old rules of having to rush the ball and stop the rush are irrelevant.
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Old 02-07-2011, 07:45 PM   #4253
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i found a manila folder in my file cabinet
labeled RTM
it had a single piece of paper in it that was related to another project
i have no clue what RTM means

oh, cape, i figured out what you did. you made the assumption that 2010 + 1 = 1921. a common mistake.

anyway, packers weren't that bad at rushing last night. it was strange to see McCarthy of all people basically abandon the run in the second half.

 
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Old 02-07-2011, 07:48 PM   #4254
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Did anyone else notice Joe Buck declaring that Woodson is slow getting up before the play even ended? I'm going to have to replay my dvr copy but, I swear Woodson was still in the process of hitting the turf when he said that.

It seemed really weird.
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Old 02-07-2011, 07:57 PM   #4255
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Did anyone else notice Joe Buck declaring that Woodson is slow getting up before the play even ended? I'm going to have to replay my dvr copy but, I swear Woodson was still in the process of hitting the turf when he said that.

It seemed really weird.
yes, i did notice that. he was still rolling on the ground when he said it, i thought to myself, give him a chance to come to a stop...

 
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Old 02-07-2011, 08:11 PM   #4256
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the owners own the TEAM, not the "league". they shouldn't have 100% influence on the way the game is played.

you're saying steel CEO's get to force workers into 60 hour work weeks because they own the company.
Exactly... no one in the US is FORCED to do ANY job. This is at the most basic level of capitalism. If a company requires workers to work for 60 hours, no workers should work there. Over time, that company won't be able to staff its operations and they will have to lower their required hours.

If you don't like working 60 hours... don't work there.

And yes... they do own the league. They collectively OWN the league.
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Old 02-07-2011, 08:17 PM   #4257
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Over time, that company won't be able to staff its operations and they will have to lower their required hours.
lol, wrong. Just like what's going on in China, right? all those manufacturing places are going under because they have sh*tty working conditions and long hours so nobody's working there

over time, people will continue to work there, because its better than nothing. which is why the union exists.

 
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Old 02-07-2011, 08:21 PM   #4258
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I'm all for the 18 game schedule and less preseason games. The evaluation thing about fringe players is crap. First of all, who cares if they get tape. What is more important is not having the first 4 games of the season look bad becasue guys haven't had enough time together. We see that already in the NFL though. But that is also becasue essentially the starters don't play 4 preseason games currently, maybe 2.5. The roster would have to expand as well, I dunno by how much, but I think that is a good thing too.
Of course they are going to have to pay the players extra.

 
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Old 02-07-2011, 08:23 PM   #4259
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whatever... not debating this in this thread.

you wanna spew socialist "boo hooo everyone feel bad for the workers" garbage, start a thread in the debate section.

In terms of the NFL... EFF the players. If they don't like the rules or working for the NFL, they are more than welcome to stop collecting those paychecks and go do something else.
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Old 02-07-2011, 08:43 PM   #4260
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whatever... not debating this in this thread.

you wanna spew socialist "boo hooo everyone feel bad for the workers" garbage, start a thread in the debate section.

In terms of the NFL... EFF the players. If they don't like the rules or working for the NFL, they are more than welcome to stop collecting those paychecks and go do something else.
I'm torn here Cape...on one hand I agree that we need to get back to the power of the free market. At the same time, we have already fought this battle in this country because employers in general (not saying there aren't exceptions) will screw their employees any way they can to squeeze a few more cents of profit. That inherent greed in human nature is why we had to install protections for workers like child labor laws, 40 hr work week, safe working conditions, and the right to bargain as a collective to increase power (CBA). The ideal of laissez faire is great. The reality is that people were dying by the thousands at one point in our history in mills, mines, and factories and they had the right to deal with it or starve...their ideals weren't going to feed their families.

That said, I have ZERO sympathy for EITHER side of this argument as it pertains to professional athletes in general and the NFL in particular. The players make loads of money compared to the rest of us common folk. If they can't figure out how to make 2-15 years of 6-7 figure income last longer than a lambo and child support, F&%$ THEM.

And the owners whining that they aren't making enough is ridiculous. You can't establish the precedent of out of control contracts then all of a sudden try to close the floodgates. If you want 18 games, pay for them. If you don't want to pay for them, play 16 games. Start restructuring contracts to be more realistic from this part forward, but you can't change what is done. Especially where it comes to unproven rookies. They should get a league minimum for a year subject to increase based on actual time on the field and contribution to the team. Guys who need several years to develop get to collect fat but not ridiculous checks for a year or two (or forever if they just don't pan out). Guys like Suh and Bradford get paid up because they played and made a significant impact right away.

 
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