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Old 08-12-2009, 12:01 PM   #11
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well i guess there is hope.

there are tiny bubbles rising to the top, there is a brown crust about 2 inches above the foam, and the foam is about 2 inches thick.... are those good signs??

and thanks for all the responses. very very helpful

 
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Old 08-12-2009, 12:26 PM   #12
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I would guess you are at "high kreusen" or peak fermentation. This will fall in a few days. Let it sit and clear for another two weeks or so after fermentation has ceased.

 
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Old 08-12-2009, 12:28 PM   #13
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well my cousin said that it should be pretty vigorous for a couple days and it never was... is this a problem?

 
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Old 08-12-2009, 02:43 PM   #14
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If you have 2 inches of foam and then there's a crusty ring 2 inches above that, you're doing great. You had a big krausen and it's falling now.
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Old 08-12-2009, 02:53 PM   #15
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well is there any danger by adding another vial of yeast to be safe at this point?

 
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Old 08-12-2009, 03:00 PM   #16
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Have you even taken a grav reading yet through all these discussions?

That would answer your question about your beer instantly and have given you piece of mind, instead of using a flawed method like looking at an airlock as a guide.

Fermentation is not always "dynamic," just because you don't SEE anything happenning, doesn't mean that anything's wrong, and also doesn't mean that the yeast are still not working dilligantly away, doing what they've been doing for over 4,000 years....

The only way to truly know what is going on in your fermenter is with your hydrometer. Like I said here in my blog, which I encourage you to read, Think evaluation before action you sure as HELL wouldn't want a doctor to start cutting on you unless he used the proper diagnostic instuments like x-rays first, right? You wouldn't want him to just take a look in your eyes briefly and say "I'm cutting into your chest first thing in the morning." You would want them to use the right diagnostic tools before the slice and dice, right? You'd cry malpractice, I would hope, if they didn't say they were sending you for an MRI and other things before going in.....

Thinking about pitching more yeast before taking a hydrometer reading after waiting an intial 72 hours, is the same thing....thinking about a "cure" before we even know if the beer is even "sick."

Nothing I have read of your info leads me to believe that there is anything wrong or "different" with your beer than any of the other nervous first time brewers who post on here.

The cure for that is to take a hydrometer reading, pure and simple.

It's really really hard for this stuff NOT to turn out.
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Old 08-12-2009, 03:12 PM   #17
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that is a great point REVVY. that is a really good idea.

i will go to the store today, buy a vial of yeast and a hydrometer (was using my cousins when i made it). it started at 1.050 so how far under should that be? if its 1.048-1.049, should I pitch it again or does that mean its good? and if it is right, then i'll just save the yeast for the next batch. cause if for some reason this doesnt go perfect, i am not giving up. sound good....?

 
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Old 08-12-2009, 03:15 PM   #18
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I wouldn't even bother buying a vial of yeast at this point unless you're starting another batch in the near future. If you're going to wait until you taste this one before you brew again, wait on buying the yeast. Your brew is FINE. I know it's FINE. If it's not FINE I will strike myself in the nads. I swear! Take a sample and check the gravity. If it's above 1.018 I'd be shocked.
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If it is ANYTHING under your OG, then it is fermenting and you should relax, and leave your fermenter alone. The yeast really do know what they need to do.

Hey how come Chesire mention the H word and you ignored it, but I mention it and you jump to it?

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Old 08-12-2009, 03:29 PM   #20
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It is not needed as it sounds like you have had a normal fermentation going.

Here are a few pics to help you if your beer looks like the one on the left you are right where you need to be. Don't worry about comparing color or anything other than the Krauzen or (foam) If you have a Hydrometer use it to take a reading and compare it to your OG.



Here is a short video of an active fermentation.

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