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Old 08-07-2009, 10:13 PM   #1
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It just seems to work better!

in the past ive waited days for liquid yeast to start fermentation... but seems every time i use you dry yeast i just pour it in, an hour or two later its chugging away...

why is this? i never really given much thought ..

 
Old 08-07-2009, 10:38 PM   #2
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I'm right there with you. I'm a staunch advocate of dry yeast whenever it's applicable!
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Old 08-07-2009, 11:04 PM   #3
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+1 to dry yeast, plus it's like 7 bucks cheaper!! So when I tell SWMBO that I'm brewing to save money...

 
Old 08-07-2009, 11:05 PM   #4
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yeah dry yeast is badass. my favorite part is the last step; sprinkling the dry yeast in all trashed like I'm seasoning some grilled chicken.

 
Old 08-07-2009, 11:43 PM   #5
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It just seems to work better!

in the past ive waited days for liquid yeast to start fermentation... but seems every time i use you dry yeast i just pour it in, an hour or two later its chugging away...

why is this? i never really given much thought ..
Dry yeast packages have a much higher cell count than liquid yeast packages-- that's why fermentation is visible much faster. If you were to make a starter with liquid yeast to increase the cell count, you'd see an equally fast start to fermentation.

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Old 08-08-2009, 12:45 AM   #6
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Dry yeast packages have a much higher cell count than liquid yeast packages-- that's why fermentation is visible much faster. If you were to make a starter with liquid yeast to increase the cell count, you'd see an equally fast start to fermentation.

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Exactly. What a PITA! So, $7 for the vial or smack pack, ??$ for the DME, two extra days waiting to brew, blah blah blubbity blah. Yeas, liquid yeast has its place. Like I said, I use dry yeast whenever the style of beer I'm brewing lets me.

Steve's right, though. Why wast your money on liquid yeast unless you put in the effort and make a starter?
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Old 08-08-2009, 01:24 AM   #7
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Exactly. What a PITA! So, $7 for the vial or smack pack, ??$ for the DME, two extra days waiting to brew, blah blah blubbity blah. Yeas, liquid yeast has its place. Like I said, I use dry yeast whenever the style of beer I'm brewing lets me.

Steve's right, though. Why wast your money on liquid yeast unless you put in the effort and make a starter?
I grew up learning to brew in the early 90's, so the "liquid yeast is better than dry" meme is fixed in my consciousness. I did use some dry yeast last year for a quick brew, and I must say it worked very well and was definitely as good as liquid. S-04, if I recall correctly. I would definitely use dry in the future as appropriate for the style.

I've been doing starters in an Erlenmeyer flask now, and that makes them *much* easier to deal with.

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Old 08-08-2009, 02:20 AM   #8
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I started with dry, went to liquid and starters in an erlenmeyer (which I agree, Steve, is much easier) and now I'm sort of leaning back to dry.

I will say that for beers above about 1.070 i prefer to use liquid and make a starter and then a bigger starter (or a few separate starters). With big beers, I've had better luck pitching those than dry yeasts, even the "high alcohol tolerant" dry yeasts, Danstar Nottingham.

 
Old 08-08-2009, 01:38 PM   #9
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I originally used liquid and starters. After using dry yeast to move a stuck fermentation, I kept some around. Used it more and more often, so by my second year of brewing I rarely used liquid any more. Now it's like driving, I use the van unless there is a very good reason (snow, flooding, need to move dirt) to use the 4x4. Haven't used liquid in four years. Sure, it limits the styles I can brew, but those other styles are in the "I drink them at club meetings" category. I doubt I'll ever make a Belgian, even used S-04 in the Bière de Garde.
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Old 08-08-2009, 03:11 PM   #10
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I used s-04 for the first time in a porter-ish beer recently. It's been in the primary 9 days and since it ferments so fast (3-4 days it was complete), are there any issues leaving it longer in there? This is the first darker beer i've made as well. Just wondering about the darker, heavier beers with the dry yeast.

 


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