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Old 07-20-2009, 02:48 PM   #1
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Good morning.

Ok - going all-in. Placing first bulk grain order. Sick of paying high prices at my local HBS store for 1lb here...2 lbs there.

I really want to buy the 55lb bag of Marris Otter. Figured i'd get alot of use from this.

Two of my immediate recipes (Wit and an Oatmeal Stout) call for Belgian Pale Malt.

Should i order the Belgian as well or can I substittute the Marris Otter for the Belgian without noticing a significant difference in taste?

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Old 07-20-2009, 02:55 PM   #2
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In my case I switched to GW pale malt instead of MO in several recipes and neither I nor anyone who drinks it can tell any real difference. Then again most of my beers are rather hoppy & IIPA-ish so that my matter.

I'd do a test with your next brew. I have cut my grain costs. MO $1.07/lb or GW $.66/lb

 
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Old 07-20-2009, 03:02 PM   #3
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Thank u Samc.

What Maltster is GW?

Woul di notice a difference if i were to substitute MO for Belgian?
Still a noob so pls excuse the questions.

 
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Old 07-20-2009, 03:14 PM   #4
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BMG - Great Western Malting Co.

Only way for you to know is to brew with both and taste what you get. Nothing anybody says can make this point any different.

 
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Old 07-20-2009, 03:19 PM   #5
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Yep - very subjective i suppose.
Can't think of a better way to learn than to make beer that has both!

Thank you

 
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Old 07-20-2009, 03:35 PM   #6
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You can order by the pound as well from North Country, in case you didn't realize.
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Old 07-20-2009, 03:42 PM   #7
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Do you have a grain mill? Or are you going to get them to mill it for you, then store it somehow at home? I'm looking to start bulk purchasing for base grains, but I'm not sure how to deal with storage until I get a grain mill.
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Old 07-20-2009, 05:13 PM   #8
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You can get per pound orders from North Country, but that puts in it line with more LHBS and online suppliers (about $1.55/lb). I placed an order with their center in Champlain NY a while back, and they were absolutely great people to work with. I need to plan a drive back over there and get more 2row, I'm almost done with my first 55lb sack!

My *guess* is that MO would have a bit more mouthfeel than the Belgian. I've been doing everything with Pilsner malt and Munich, and doing a 90min boil for anything that's mostly Pils. Seems to work well so far!

 
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Old 07-20-2009, 05:38 PM   #9
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menschmaschine -

Yep - I'm ordering a few specialty grains in smaller amounts. The MO i ordered in bulk as my "base"

cd2448:
I just purchased the Schmidling "Malt Mill". I'm buying in bulk uncrushed - then storing in one of those big Rubbermaid storage containers in a dark corner of my basement.
I'm not sure if you can store crushed....

Hotspur - thank u!
Yep - they seem like good people over there at North Country. Can't beat their price on a 55lb sack of MO for 42 bucks.
I purchased about 65 lbs of MO and other specialty grains for about 80 bucks incl shipping.

We'll give it a try with the MO as a base. Doubt if it'll see the difference in the Oatmeal Stout..

 
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Old 07-20-2009, 07:13 PM   #10
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Remember, you also get a malt analysis for each type of grain from North Country. That may not mean much to some, but I find it invaluable for mash schedules, efficiency predictions, and color accuracy.
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