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Old 07-19-2009, 04:29 AM   #1
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Default Picked up the wrong ingredients - hop suggestions for grain bill

Hey guys! Hoping to get some help on a possible recipe here...

I was planning on brewing a batch of the Lake Walk Pale Ale. I visited my LHBS and handed off my handwritten recipe to be filled and crushed. When I got home, I realized that I had 2 pounds of roasted malt instead of toasted, which I had planned on trying myself! So here are the grains I currently have:

8.0 lbs 2-Row Brewers Malt
2.0 lbs Roasted Malt
0.5 lbs Crystal Malt 60°L
0.5 lbs Wheat Flakes

I'm planning on going in tomorrow to get the proper grain bill for the Lake Walk. Does anyone have any suggestions for what I can do with this grain bill with the roasted? I was thinking of perhaps some sort of vanilla porter, but I'm not sure if it's even rescuable with that much roasted... so I'm looking for hop/yeast ideas.

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Old 07-19-2009, 06:35 AM   #2
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You could toast some of that 2-row yourself.

Willamette for hops would be good with what you have there.


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Old 07-19-2009, 01:28 PM   #3
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What is the Lovibond of the roasted malt?
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Old 07-19-2009, 02:48 PM   #4
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I plan on toasting the 2 row myself for the Lake Walk recipe. The incorrect ingredients that I have now, however, are already crushed and thrown in with the rest of the grains.

I'm not sure on the lovibond for the roasted grains. All I can tell is written on the bag "Roasted - 2lbs", and I can see that the grains are very dark. I called and asked the LHBS guy about it, and he said that the roasted he gave me would definitely not end up with a pale ale style.
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Old 07-19-2009, 03:29 PM   #5
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I've never heard of "roasted malt" per se, only roasted barley. I suppose it could be a form of roasted malt - black malt, chocolate malt, etc. In any case, you don't want 2 pounds of any of that stuff (color = 300-500 oL).

a little roasted barley goes a LONG way. I've used a pound in a stout and thought is was too much. For what you want to do, I'd either leave it out completely or at the very most add 4 ounces - you'll end up with a nice amber color. If you bump it up to 8 ounces, you're into the brown-color category.

Of course, you could switch things up and brew a stout instead

EDIT - just reread your response above - the 2 pounds of the roasted malt are already mixed with the rest?!? Quite frankly, I think you are SOL - 2 pounds of that stuff (whatever it is - roasted barley, chocolate malt, black malt) is going to give you a pitch black, very astringent brew. I'm not sure there is a way to fix that since I don't think it will even make a good stout. Sorry
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Cool, well I'll just chalk up the grain bag as a loss.

Thanks for the help, everyone!
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I'd hold on before you go tossing the grain out. If you want to make a stout you could always go get say 5-7 pounds of 2 row and use maybe 1/3 of the bag of grain you have with it. Not exact but really, what in brewing is. If it's bad, well, at least you tried.

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I'd hold on before you go tossing the grain out. If you want to make a stout you could always go get say 5-7 pounds of 2 row and use maybe 1/3 of the bag of grain you have with it. Not exact but really, what in brewing is. If it's bad, well, at least you tried.

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Call up the LHBS and ask the knucklehead what they actually put in there.
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Took your advice and decided to cut my incorrect grain bill in half, leaving me with (ideally) 1 lb of 300 lovibond roasted. Filled in the other half with:

4.5 lbs 2-row
.75 lbs Carapils
1 lb Munich
.5 lb crystal malt 15L
.25 lb crystal malt 40L
.5 lb black malt

.7 oz Chinook @ 60
.2 oz Cascade @ 60
.2 oz Cascade @ 10
.2 oz Cascade @ 0

Fairly close to a Fish Tale Trout Stout clone, which I have never heard of... but why not? Thanks everyone! Let the Frankenstein Brew begin!


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