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Old 07-14-2009, 01:42 AM   #1
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I talked to my local co-operating, sharing equipment, barter for everything next door dairy farmer.

In exchange for some cheese, he will be able to provide me with the good stuff, straight form the holstein.

So, what do I need to know when stepping up from store bought milk to the real deal?

This is the same fellow who owns a combine that I own half of, we make each others hay all the time, share all kinds of stuff that we couldn't own seperately. I do carpentering work for him, and he plants & chops my corn. I helped build his house, and he baled my hay for me while I was working on his house, that kind of barter/trade system.

A cool guy.

 
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Old 07-14-2009, 02:54 AM   #2
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I am so jealous.

The thing that Ricki Carroll says about raw milk is know the cow (healthy) and the farmer (takes care of animals and sanitation). There are pathogens that can survive the process particularly in cheese that does not age over 60 days. She also says that fresh milk makes great tasting cheese! You can always home pasteurize if necessary but I know how necessary it will be.
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Old 07-14-2009, 11:04 PM   #3
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I recently posted a thread about raw milk on this forum, so check it out.

When making cheese with raw milk, there is no need for calcium chloride.

Another important thing to know is that when using raw milk you have to up the culture about 25%, because raw milk has natural enzymes which inhibit bacterial growth -- a good thing, since it protects the milk from pathogens, but it also slows down your starter cultures.

 
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Nurmey,

I trust this guy with my life. Literally. We farm together. We own million dollar machines together. Ill leave it at that.

I know his cows, his farm (hell I built the milking parlor). When the vet comes, she checks his cows, then checks mine.

Should I let the mozz age 60 days before consumption? ( I hope not)

Brewmonger.

Ok, tell me if this is wrong.
Add the citric acid, but not the calcium carbonate, and add 3/4 tablet of rennet instead of 1/2 tablet?

 
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Old 07-15-2009, 01:22 AM   #5
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Nurmey,

I trust this guy with my life. Literally. We farm together. We own million dollar machines together. Ill leave it at that.

I know his cows, his farm (hell I built the milking parlor). When the vet comes, she checks his cows, then checks mine.

Should I let the mozz age 60 days before consumption? ( I hope not)

Brewmonger.

Ok, tell me if this is wrong.
Add the citric acid, but not the calcium carbonate, and add 3/4 tablet of rennet instead of 1/2 tablet?
If the milking is done well, no need to pasteurize before using. If not so sure, you can always pasteurize the milk.

(It's calcium chloride you add, not carbonate! Right, you don't need it with non-homogenized milk)
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Old 07-15-2009, 01:34 AM   #6
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Yooper,

Mrs. Goodman, my college chemisty professor would tell me "ZAC!!!! you are capable of better. I expect better. ....then she would add her usual disclaimer about how if I were her son, she would kick my a$$ to the curb, tell me to get a haircut & a job. Then she would tell me how smart I was and how if I continued down the road I was on, I would end up just like I was.


After all these years, I cant beieve I said I added baking soda to cheese. Yes, It was CaCl, calcium chloride.

 
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Old 07-15-2009, 01:37 AM   #7
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I cant believe I spelled believe wrong.

Hell, it may still be spelled wrong.

I graduated high school with a 4th grade level in spelling.

 
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Zac, she'd really kick your ass now. CaCO3 is calcium carbonate (chalk). Baking soda is NaHCO3.

Chemistry lesson over. You can be excused.
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If I wernet so sick, (literally stomach problems) I would have caught that.

Yooper, I like you, but you are no Mrs Goodman.

Mrs goodman was old, no curves, and the thought of alcohol to her lips would have sent her into orbit...

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I like Yooper better.

 
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Old 07-15-2009, 01:55 AM   #10
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Zac, she'd really kick your ass now. CaCO3 is calcium carbonate (chalk). Baking soda is NaHCO3.

Chemistry lesson over. You can be excused.
You forgot: H2O is water and K9P comes from a dog...DOH!!!
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