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Old 07-04-2009, 12:39 AM   #1
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If you set up a 1 bbl system in a local pub/restaurant, how would you do it? All the licensing and permitting would be in place. I am just thinking of the system. Not on the total cheap, but best price with workability. This is probably fiction, but who knows.

Ales only
31 gallons, one batch per week maybe every two weeks
Probably 3 – 42 gallon fermenters
No distribution, only in house draught service


My thoughts:
Three tier system
Electric heat on mash and sparge water
Mash in 150 qt. marine cooler with copper manifold
Two 20 gallon kettles
Boil on stock pot burners
Cool with immersion cooler
Pump into fermenter
A cool room for fermenting – AC at 65 or so

This is just a basic outline. What are your thoughts? Punch holes in it. I don’t know anyone who has brewed a 31 gal batch.


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Old 07-04-2009, 12:49 AM   #2
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I would go with commercial style steam kettles, They are not that expensive used.


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Used steam kettle would be ideal, any sites that you could suggest?
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Don't forget that when you are brewing for a business you more than likely need to be inspected and approved by the health department. I'm not positive but I would think the cooler MLT would be nixed.

Personally I'd go with a single tier system with 55 gallon stainless drums for the HLT, MLT, and Boil Kettle. Then ferment in either sankey kegs or the 42 gallon Blichmanns.
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There is a "nano" brewing system at this site: pico - Brewing Systems Inc.
I don't know if they are still in business but you might get some ideas from their set up, 55gal stainless drums aren't too hard to find. Also, look around on the "probrewer" website in the classifieds section, they usually have some pilot breweries.
And if you can find a copy of the Frankenbrew video by Tom Hennessey, it is full of ideas as well.
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for steam kettles its best to look at local restaurant supply houses and places going out of business. I recently saw a two kettle setup go for around $1500 on craigslist here
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Don't forget that when you are brewing for a business you more than likely need to be inspected and approved by the health department. I'm not positive but I would think the cooler MLT would be nixed.

Personally I'd go with a single tier system with 55 gallon stainless drums for the HLT, MLT, and Boil Kettle. Then ferment in either sankey kegs or the 42 gallon Blichmanns.
Is there an "established" way to ferment in the kegs, or is it something I would have to work out? I am pretty handy, but it would have to be health dpt. approved like you said. Thoughts?

I remember a prior post that you made. Have you given this a try?
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for steam kettles its best to look at local restaurant supply houses and places going out of business. I recently saw a two kettle setup go for around $1500 on craigslist here
That's a deal. I'll check cL. not much for rest supply stores here, last one went out a while back.
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Is there an "established" way to ferment in the kegs, or is it something I would have to work out? I am pretty handy, but it would have to be health dpt. approved like you said. Thoughts?

I remember a prior post that you made. Have you given this a try?
There are several 1/2 barrel fermentor ideas out there. Commercially Sabco make some here. In BYO a few months back they did a spotlight of some pro brewers working on a homebrew sized system. One place fermented in 1/2 barrels. Also Yuri_rage has a recent build on here to turn a keg into a pretty slick conical http://www.homebrewtalk.com/f51/diy-...menter-123770/

If you do a search I've seen plenty of designs on here to fement in kegs. Some are as simple as taking the diptube assembly out and put in a rubber stopper with an airlock. Others are more complicated which involve cutting off the top of the keg then taking the cut top and assembling a system to clamp it back on to provide an assessable opening to be able to rack and clean.


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