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Old 07-06-2009, 04:33 PM   #11
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I think this is my favorite pilsner. Actually, everything I've tried from Victory has been excellent.

 
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Old 07-07-2009, 10:38 AM   #12
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Great posting!

I love living in Lagervania

Hells yeah! If you like lagers, we've got a world class selection 'round here.

A friend and her husband were talking to Ron & Bill and asked for the recipe to Prima.. they don't like giving out the recipe and would rather that folks take their own shot. The most info I've seen directly from Victory:

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The brewhouse was designed to
perform decoction mashing for continental lagers (but works great for
American and Belgian ales too) but also using whole flower hops. Its
my opinion that the wonderful aromatics evident in HopDevil and Prima
are a result of using whole hops and a hopback as well as the careful
watching of Ron and Bill. BTW, Victory is located in Downingtown,
Pa, about 35 miles west of Philly. Directions are on the web site.

Heres some pointers on making a homebrewed version of Prima Pils:

Prima is slightly higher OG than the traditional German pils, aim
for around 13P. A grist of 100% pils malt from Germany or the Czech
republic would be good. Perform a multi step mash or decoction
according to the malt specs, ie if needed. Take care to avoid oxygen
pickup during mashing and lautering. Hopping is around 50-60 BUs,
you can choose to use all noble hops if you can fit all the hops in
your kettle, or start with a higher alpha kettle hop like German
Perle or Northern Brewer and follow up with the traditional flavor
and aroma hops such as Hallertau and plenty of Saaz. Do not dry hop
pils and be sure to boil the last hop addition for at least 5-10
mins. Use a huge starter of clean lager yeast, a one gallon starter
can be allowed to complete and take the slurry from that for 5-6
gals. Oxygenate to saturation by injection/bubbling pure O2.
Ferment cool, keeping below 50F. Lager 5-6 weeks at 31F.
HOMEBREW Digest #3209 Fri 31 December 1999

 
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Old 07-08-2009, 09:25 PM   #13
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Clone recipe from Zymurgy, author Amahl Turczyn Scheppach:

1.053, 51 IBU (all whole hops), 3 SRM, 75% eff., 90min boil
9.25lb German Pils
Double decoction w/mashout ([email protected], [email protected], [email protected], [email protected])
1oz Tradition 6% @60
1oz Tett 4.5% @30
1oz Mittelfrüh 4.5% @20
2oz Saaz 4.3% @10
German lager @50F, lager 10-13wks @35F

I'd have to use about 10lb to get 1.053 on my system....
I'm not set up to lager, BUT I could always do an ale with WLP029 or something.

 
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Old 07-08-2009, 09:29 PM   #14

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I'm not set up to lager, BUT I could always do an ale with WLP029 or something.
I'm not permanently set up to lager either, but I know Yooper has good success using a swamp cooler to get keep fermentation temps in check (even for lagers), then you could ostensibly lager in the bottle if you wish.

 
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Old 07-08-2009, 09:31 PM   #15
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I'm not permanently set up to lager either, but I know Yooper has good success using a swamp cooler to get keep fermentation temps in check (even for lagers), then you could ostensibly lager in the bottle if you wish.
Unfortunately it's a bit too humid for a swamp cooler here

 
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Old 07-08-2009, 09:36 PM   #16

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Unfortunately it's a bit too humid for a swamp cooler here
If James Spenser can do the low-tech lagering thing in Arkansas, I'd bet you could pull it off in Tennessee.

That said, I'm going to hold off on doing any lagers until the conditions in my basement allow it.

 
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Old 07-09-2009, 12:04 AM   #17
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I love living in Lagervania
Careful now! That's easily confused with Yuengling. (not that I think it's a bad beer; I do like it. It's just sad that with so many tasty brews in PA, the majority of the population thinks "lager" = Yuengling)

I haven't had a beer from Victory I didn't like. Would love to try that Zymurgy recipe if I had time to devote to a double-decoction brew day.

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That said, I'm going to hold off on doing any lagers until the conditions in my basement allow it.
You mean SWMBO? I'm gonna make a lager brewer out of you whether you like it or not.

 
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Old 09-25-2009, 08:04 PM   #18
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I just got a clone kit from Austin Homebrew, 9.5 lbs of German Pils, and 1 oz each of Tradition, Tett, Hall, and Saaz at 60, 30, 20, 10 minutes. Hope to brew it Sunday or Monday.

My local store was out of the Prima today too....sumbitches!
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Old 10-23-2009, 03:36 AM   #19
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I just got a clone kit from Austin Homebrew, 9.5 lbs of German Pils, and 1 oz each of Tradition, Tett, Hall, and Saaz at 60, 30, 20, 10 minutes. Hope to brew it Sunday or Monday.

My local store was out of the Prima today too....sumbitches!
how's this one coming along?

i just tried this beer tonight... amazing. IMHO, it's the perfect german pils.
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Old 12-18-2009, 08:00 PM   #20
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buuump... anyone have any feedback on recipes they've tried for this??
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