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Old 06-30-2009, 12:03 AM   #1
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I have a beer kegged (monk mood) that is 100% pils malt and used Wyeast #3787. FG 1.012
not sure if you need this info, but figured it doesn't hurt.

I decided to take some orval dregs, which I had saved and grown, into about 6 bottles with a turkey baster. I then filled and capped them....

Can I expect to get some Orval funky goodness over time in these bottles?
How long should I wait to begin sampling?

Has anyone tried something similar before? Was it good?
Should I bottle some more?

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J



 
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Old 06-30-2009, 01:22 AM   #2
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If I was going to try this I would age them for at least 6 months or so.


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Old 06-30-2009, 12:30 PM   #3
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I did an enkel with harvested Orval just over 9 months ago. The funk is just starting to become noticeable.

 
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Old 06-30-2009, 10:17 PM   #4
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I did an enkel with harvested Orval just over 9 months ago. The funk is just starting to become noticeable.
Did you add it to secondary/ keg or when bottling? thanks

 
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Old 07-01-2009, 02:19 AM   #5
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Do tell.

Orval is my favorite Trappest. I've considered doing this too.
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Old 07-01-2009, 03:17 PM   #6
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Actually, I fermented with it start to finish.

 
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Old 07-01-2009, 06:42 PM   #7
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Did you only use Orval yeast or did you supplement with something else? And is it still in a carboy or is it bottled and if bottled, is it drinkable?
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Old 07-01-2009, 07:31 PM   #8
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I use it in my http://www.homebrewtalk.com/f72/drunk-owl-mango-55227/ and it adds a nice funk at 6 months in the bottle ( 1 year from brew)

If you added it to the bottles be very careful with them. It took mine from 1.014 to 1.004 and that is a considerable bit of carbonation so bottle bombs could be a possibility

 
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Old 07-01-2009, 08:19 PM   #9
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Did you only use Orval yeast or did you supplement with something else? And is it still in a carboy or is it bottled and if bottled, is it drinkable?
It was fermented with 100% pure Orval yeast. Bottled at the 6 month mark and is now in the cellar. Opened the 1st one at the 7 month mark and it was wonderful. Nice banana esters with just a hint of brett funk. I opened another bottle a couple weekends ago at the 9 month mark and now you can tell the sour is coming through. I'm guessing it'll be the 12-18 month range before this beer reaches its full potential.

 
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Old 07-02-2009, 12:40 AM   #10
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Nice. I've been looking for another long term project now that my pLambic is almost gone.

I was thinking of modifying my Grand Cru recipe and pitching with a starter of Belgian yeast and a starter of Orval.


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