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Old 06-23-2009, 05:00 PM   #1
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I picked up an extract kit for whatever reason, and the hops are a 45 minute boil, and if I do a late extract add of 15 minutes, the hops will be alone in the boiling water for 1/2 an hour. How does this affect hop utilization?

 
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Old 06-23-2009, 05:06 PM   #2
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You'll need some extract for hops utilization. There is a formula for the science aspect but I went with 'art' and usually split the addition of extract 50/50 (50% before adding hops and 50% at 15 min).

How much extract do you have?

 
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Old 06-23-2009, 05:11 PM   #3
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6lbs wheat extract, 1 oz sterling (6% AA) @ 45 minutes

I don't really have a target IBU. I just want something proper for a raspberry wheat.

 
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Old 06-23-2009, 05:25 PM   #4
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+1 on 50/50 split. On my very first batch, I tried late extract addition and added it all with 15 minutes left in the boil without making any changes to hop amounts or additions. The bitterness of this beer was overpowering and really awful. Since then, I use the 50/50 method, cut down the bitterness hops by about 20% and I have had fantastic results.
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Old 06-23-2009, 05:29 PM   #5
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So 3# @ 45 minutes, then 3# @ 15 minutes?

 
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Old 06-23-2009, 05:36 PM   #6
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That'll work. You definately want some type of malt extract in there before boiling the hops. 50/50 is the easiest way to do this.... By the way, I would throw the extract in for a 60 minute boil; adding the hops in at 45 minutes to go.
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Old 06-23-2009, 05:45 PM   #7
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By the way, I would throw the extract in for a 60 minute boil; adding the hops in at 45 minutes to go.
no reason to do this -- 45 minutes is more than enough boiling for some extract. you're only adding the rest of it for 15 minutes, right? so why should this half need to boiled for 60? answer: it doesn't. save yourself a few minutes -- just throw the hops in after your hot break and start your timer counting down from 45.

 
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Old 06-23-2009, 06:04 PM   #8
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no reason to do this -- 45 minutes is more than enough boiling for some extract. you're only adding the rest of it for 15 minutes, right? so why should this half need to boiled for 60? answer: it doesn't. save yourself a few minutes -- just throw the hops in after your hot break and start your timer counting down from 45.
I will do this. Seems simple.

 
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Old 06-23-2009, 07:12 PM   #9
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You'll need some extract for hops utilization. There is a formula for the science aspect but I went with 'art' and usually split the addition of extract 50/50 (50% before adding hops and 50% at 15 min).
That theory was debunked quite a while ago. In fact, the very first Basic Brewing Video episode covered hop utilization in plain water.

One argument for having some extract in the wort however is that in plain water, the hops have a strong tendency to float on top. In a slightly higher gravity wort, the hops roll with the boil better.

 
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Old 06-25-2009, 09:07 PM   #10
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+1 jkarp, just relistened to the episode recently.
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