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Old 06-06-2009, 09:25 PM   #1
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When I finally build my system I want to attempt to conserver water. I don't like the idea of running water through my ic and wasting it. So I have read on these board about people using some kind of pump and a 5 gallon bucket filled with ice water to cool the wort.

My question is what type of pumps are these and where can I get one.



 
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Old 06-06-2009, 09:28 PM   #2
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Any store that sells pond supplies... Lowes Hardware has them as well... Home Depot...


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Old 06-06-2009, 09:30 PM   #3
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Next time you are in Home Despot go to the plumbing section. There are many pumps on display. Your best bet would be a submersible.






or just google
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Old 06-06-2009, 09:32 PM   #4
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When I finally build my system I want to attempt to conserver water. I don't like the idea of running water through my ic and wasting it. So I have read on these board about people using some kind of pump and a 5 gallon bucket filled with ice water to cool the wort.

My question is what type of pumps are these and where can I get one.
A little off topic, but I was wondering why the big concern about using some water for chilling? Are you in a drought area or something? My point is that the water is probably cheaper than the ice in terms of both energy cost and expenditure if you have to buy it. It takes energy to make ice. Water is a renewable resource and ti too requires energy to treat and deliver it to you. What I'm getting at is that using ice may be less environmentally responsible than using water. I'm just guessing here and don't know for certain. You can also recover the cooling water and use it for something else.

 
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Old 06-06-2009, 09:37 PM   #5
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A little off topic, but I was wondering why the big concern about using some water for chilling? Are you in a drought area or something? My point is that the water is probably cheaper than the ice in terms of both energy cost and expenditure if you have to buy it. It takes energy to make ice. Water is a renewable resource and ti too requires energy to treat and deliver it to you. What I'm getting at is that using ice may be less environmentally responsible than using water. I'm just guessing here and don't know for certain. You can also recover the cooling water and use it for something else.
Places like Texas has water that is warm especially in the summer. You can only chill to the ambient water temperature.

 
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Old 06-06-2009, 09:50 PM   #6
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I bought a $20 submersible Pond pump that I used with my old IC.
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Old 06-06-2009, 09:53 PM   #7
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I do want to conserve water but I also want to make sure that I can cool the wort quickly even in the summertime when the tap water is warmer.

 
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Old 06-06-2009, 10:02 PM   #8
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Just one 5 gallon bucket of ice water will not cool it completely. I have to use ground water for the initial 100 degrees or so and finish it with ice water and a pump. I capture the runoff water in a trash can to water plants later. I use a submersible sump pump.
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Old 06-06-2009, 10:05 PM   #9
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These 20$ pond pumps, how many gpm or what diameter pipe will lift how high?
how big of a pump are we talking?

 
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A little off topic, but I was wondering why the big concern about using some water for chilling? Are you in a drought area or something? My point is that the water is probably cheaper than the ice in terms of both energy cost and expenditure if you have to buy it. It takes energy to make ice. Water is a renewable resource and ti too requires energy to treat and deliver it to you. What I'm getting at is that using ice may be less environmentally responsible than using water. I'm just guessing here and don't know for certain. You can also recover the cooling water and use it for something else.
Just to be the Devil's advocate...

I would tend to think the cost difference between freezing water and using more water would be quite small. Electricity and water are both pretty cheap in the big picture.

The average hose bib puts out about 10 GPM. 20 minutes to cool your wort uses 200 gallons of water. That is quite a bit of water to recover. A washing machine uses a bout 50 g per load.


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