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Old 08-11-2006, 06:34 PM   #1
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when i was in prague last year, many of the local brew houses offered up two types of house beers, a light and a dark lager. i have seen plenty of places that offer up clone recipes for the light lager, but how do i replicate the dark?

the light was very much like budvar or urquell. do you think that if i made a budvar clone but switched the pale malt out for vienna malt i might get the same results?



 
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Old 08-11-2006, 09:46 PM   #2
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...or you could substitute 1/2 lb of malt for a dark malt...to make it darker.


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Old 08-27-2006, 03:52 AM   #3
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I would also love to know how to replicate a dark czech beer. I loved the Kozel Cerny which was probably about 10 or 12 degrees plato (probably 12) and a sub-5% abv. Semi-sweet with a nice maltiness.

Staropramen dark and the Budvar dark were also good. If anyone has a recipe I would greatly appreciate it. Otherwise, I'll have to learn some Czech and fly back to Praha.

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Old 08-27-2006, 04:03 AM   #4
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I would brew a budvar clone and add about a half pound of dehusked black malt. I think it's called carafa special?
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Old 08-27-2006, 06:09 PM   #6
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Quote:
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the light was very much like budvar or urquell. do you think that if i made a budvar clone but switched the pale malt out for vienna malt i might get the same results?
Using Vienna malt will also change the taste substantially and will not go in the direction you want . A good example of a commercial Vienna lager is Negro Modelo.

Try looking for recipes for German Schwartzbier or Munich Dunkel.

 
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Old 12-21-2006, 11:29 PM   #7
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Austin Homebrew is offering a U'Fleku style dark lager, which I'm going to attempt this month. That was some good stuff - a little hoppier maybe than Kozel Cerny or Budvar dark or Staropramen granat.

 
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Old 12-22-2006, 01:14 AM   #8
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Or try a Schwartzbier:

Mini-mash

1.25 lbs German Pilsner
1/2 lb C90L
1/4 lb Carafa III (de-husked)
1.25 lb Munich
45 minutes in 2.5 gallons @ 155F

4 lbs Dark LME
1 lb Munich LME

1 oz. NB @ 60
1/2 oz. Czech Saaz @ 15
1/2 oz. Czech Saaz @ 5

OG 1.051

German/Munich lager yeast

Pitch at 80F, start cooling (1F/hour) when fermentation starts (12-16 hrs)
Ferment at 50-55F
Raise to 60-70F for two days

Rack, cool to 40F over two days
Lager 3-4 weeks

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