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Old 05-11-2009, 08:50 PM   #1
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I tried my hand at all-grain over the weekend which was overall an excellent experience.
I did have one hiccup that I would love some feedback on.

I use a 48 quart cooler with ss toilet braid as my mlt. almost immediately while collecting the runnings of my batch sparge, it got stuck. I wasn't sure what to do so I stuck my plastic spoon in the cooler to mix it up, and ended up tearing the toilet braid - which unclogged the outflow, but made for an extremely difficult experience trying to filter.

I think I got the job done, but had a lot of grain in my boil.

Are there any problems with boiling some grain? I would imagine that it was
about 0.5lbs of grain overall.

I read another post recommending inserting a ss spring into the toilet braid to help with filtering, so I think I will try to do that on my next attempt. Thanks all!

 
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Old 05-11-2009, 09:27 PM   #2
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A stuck sparge is teh suk.
You may get some astrigency or tannins from the grain, half a lb is kindof alot of grain to boil for an hour. I wouldn't worry about it though, if your results are anything like mine it'll still be better than any extract batch you've brewed before this and now you know it'll only get better once you get that sparge problem fixed!

Is it just me or does it sound disgusting that you call it a "ss toilet braid"? Personally I don't want to think about toilet parts being inside my mash

 
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Old 05-12-2009, 02:49 AM   #3
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When I started doing AG, I just drained the MLT directly from the valve into a 2 quart container for vorlauf. Occasionally the mash would get stuck then.
I now connect a 2' clear plastic tube to the valve and drain through that. The extra 2' of head does wonders for keeping up the flow. It also gives you an easy way to blow air in from the bottom to unstick a mash. Please don't blow in the tube if your mouth is below the level of the mash in the MLT. Nasty way to get a burn.

 
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Old 05-12-2009, 04:39 PM   #4
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Is it just me or does it sound disgusting that you call it a "ss toilet braid"? Personally I don't want to think about toilet parts being inside my mash
It's not just you, it is disgusting

 
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Old 05-12-2009, 04:54 PM   #5
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I tried my hand at all-grain over the weekend which was overall an excellent experience.
I did have one hiccup that I would love some feedback on.

I use a 48 quart cooler with ss toilet braid as my mlt. almost immediately while collecting the runnings of my batch sparge, it got stuck. I wasn't sure what to do so I stuck my plastic spoon in the cooler to mix it up, and ended up tearing the toilet braid - which unclogged the outflow, but made for an extremely difficult experience trying to filter.

I think I got the job done, but had a lot of grain in my boil.

Are there any problems with boiling some grain? I would imagine that it was
about 0.5lbs of grain overall.

I read another post recommending inserting a ss spring into the toilet braid to help with filtering, so I think I will try to do that on my next attempt. Thanks all!
This is exactly why I switched to a false bottom. I highly recommend a false bottom, it's really easy and much tougher to break.

 
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Old 05-12-2009, 06:08 PM   #6
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This is exactly why I switched to a false bottom. I highly recommend a false bottom, it's really easy and much tougher to break.
Totally agree, much larger cost to start with - but it's really no fuss. Only time I ever had trouble was when I had a huge grainbill and the hose between the false bottom and the output coupling was crushed by the weight of the grain. I upgraded to a copper tube and all has been merry since

 
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Old 05-12-2009, 06:34 PM   #7
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This is exactly why I switched to a false bottom. I highly recommend a false bottom, it's really easy and much tougher to break.
Do one of you guys have a picture of a cheap / easy false bottom?

the ones that I have seen look to be a PITA to make...

 
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Old 05-12-2009, 06:36 PM   #8
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Not sure I've ever seen one in a rectangular cooler... I mash in a 10 gallon circular cooler with a false bottom like this:

http://www.northernbrewer.com/pics/f...lse-bottom.jpg

It's about $25-30.. sorry, no help on a rectangular one

 
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Old 05-12-2009, 06:48 PM   #9
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It's entirely possible that your braid wasn't SS. There are plastic ones out there that look just the same. My SS _toilet_ hose braid has lasted me 11 years and 345 batches. And you guys who have problems with the name...get over yo' bad selves! _
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Old 05-12-2009, 07:01 PM   #10
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Mine does great, but is called a "Braided water line hook up hose" so is not from the potty. Ewwww.

 
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