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Old 05-11-2009, 09:14 PM   #21
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Marris Otter gets its distinct flavor from the conditions it grows in and is harvested under. It is a "winter" barley and goes through stressful growth during the cold weather.

There are Canadian malts that are similar, but you'll find nothing just like it and it's impossible to emulated with specialty grains.
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Old 05-12-2009, 12:08 AM   #22
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Marris Otter gets its distinct flavor from the conditions it grows in and is harvested under. It is a "winter" barley and goes through stressful growth during the cold weather.

There are Canadian malts that are similar, but you'll find nothing just like it and it's impossible to emulated with specialty grains.
Yup. It's very stressful growing up in Britain.

 
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It's what gives you that distinct flavah!
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Have you tried the Briess Pale Ale malt (not the Briess Pale malt)?

Just wondering because its description sounds just like most descriptions of MO.


I have seen Victory and/or Munich used to help get some more MO like flavors. I think the Munich helps increase the maltiness and Victory the biscuit/toast like flavors. I don't think there is any ideal substitute but some combination discussed here should make a good English style beer.

To my understanding MO is exclusively grown and malted in UK. It "should" be cheaper there. However I don't find it excessively expensive here. It was $62 for a 55# bag at the LHBS recently. They had 2-row for about $55. Because of shipping costs its not much cheaper ordering it from any where else.

I guess it is time to do a SMASH with MO and Briess Pale Ale to see how they compare. I would just need to find some testers with a good palette to compare the 2.

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I may be Gnome-y, but I believe that there are only:

2-row base malt

Briess Malt & Ingredients Co.: Base Malts

Pale Ale malt

Briess Malt & Ingredients Co.: High Temp Kilned Malts

Organic 2-Row and Organic Pale Ale malt

Briess Malt & Ingredients Co.: Organic Brewing Ingredients

My price for briess Pale Ale is significantly cheaper, but a little more for MO, at my LHBS.

Changes in my procurement regimen there have led me to look to North Country Malt. I believe you are correct in the common use of Munich and Vienna to flavor up standard domestic base grains.
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