Graff (Malty, slightly hopped cider) - Page 149 - Home Brew Forums

Register Now!
Home Brew Forums > HomeBrewTalk.com Recipe Database > Cider Recipes > Graff (Malty, slightly hopped cider)

Reply
 
Thread Tools
Old 09-27-2011, 01:02 AM   #1481
Sinkman
Recipes 
 
Aug 2011
Golden, CO
Posts: 26


From what I've seen, all you need is 24 hours. Mind you, I'm no expert. In fact, I have used apple juice just once, to make this version of graff:

4lbs Colorado pale 2-row malt
0.5 lbs caramel malt 80L
1oz flakes wheat (LHBS was out of torrefied)

4 gal unpasteurized Safeway organic apple juice

8 lb frozen sweet Oregon cherries

0.5 oz Tettnang

1pkg Safale US-05

I mashed at 154 for an hour, mashed out for ten minutes, then sparged.
My boil was about 30 minutes. I added the cherries just after flame-out when the wort cooled a bit. After cooling, I added the wort and cherries to the juice and pitched.

Two weeks later, I bottled it up. I'll have to make another batch someday without cherries to get the regular flavor, but I had twelve pounds of the things that needed to go somewhere! The graff is excellent. My wine friends love it!

 
Reply With Quote
Old 09-30-2011, 01:47 AM   #1482
STomp
Recipes 
 
Jul 2010
new york
Posts: 39
Liked 1 Times on 1 Posts


I'm making this tonight. I'm wondering, would Otter Maris be a good substitute for torrified wheat?

 
Reply With Quote
Old 09-30-2011, 04:12 AM   #1483
STomp
Recipes 
 
Jul 2010
new york
Posts: 39
Liked 1 Times on 1 Posts


Dear God, I came out with an OG of 1.074!

I used .4 oz Fuggle. 1 lb amber. 1 lb extra light. 4 gal Mott's.


This afternoon, I found a 22ozer *that's all I bottle in* of my Imperial Stout that I brewed for Christmas last year. Thing sports a 8.92% ABV. WOOOOOWEEEEE!! ROSCOEEEEE P. COLTRANE!!!

 
Reply With Quote
Old 09-30-2011, 12:50 PM   #1484
PortlandPatrick
Recipes 
 
May 2010
Portland, Maine
Posts: 124
Liked 7 Times on 6 Posts


Quote:
Originally Posted by STomp View Post
Dear God, I came out with an OG of 1.074!I used .4 oz Fuggle. 1 lb amber. 1 lb extra light. 4 gal Mott's.
1.074? That sounds high, but hey, no complaints, right? I've been getting 1.06x, but perhaps we're using different brands of DME.

Did you use any Crystal?

 
Reply With Quote
Old 10-01-2011, 07:41 PM   #1485
STomp
Recipes 
 
Jul 2010
new york
Posts: 39
Liked 1 Times on 1 Posts


Quote:
Originally Posted by PortlandPatrick View Post
1.074? That sounds high, but hey, no complaints, right? I've been getting 1.06x, but perhaps we're using different brands of DME.

Did you use any Crystal?
I used Northwestern Light Syrup and Northwestern Extra Light Dry.
I did you .5 lbs of 60 Crystal, sorry. I love the way 60 steeps, let me tell you.

She is fermenting right along at 74 degrees. One question: I'm getting a pungent smell out of the airlock. Is this normal?

 
Reply With Quote
Old 10-01-2011, 09:56 PM   #1486
PortlandPatrick
Recipes 
 
May 2010
Portland, Maine
Posts: 124
Liked 7 Times on 6 Posts


Quote:
Originally Posted by STomp View Post
I'm getting a pungent smell out of the airlock. Is this normal?
Kinda fart-ish? Yep, normal.

 
Reply With Quote
Old 10-05-2011, 02:58 PM   #1487
kennethm
Recipes 
 
Aug 2009
Florida
Posts: 86
Liked 1 Times on 1 Posts


I made a version of this with 5 gal aj 1 lbs light dme 1 lbs amber dme and threw is .5 oz goldings. O.G. was 1.058 and. F.G. was 1.000. Its about 2 months old and has a nice apple flavor with just a slight bit of malt and hops. But does have a sour or dry finnish. This is my first cidar so not sure if its supposed to be as sour/ dry at the finnish. Any thoughts?

 
Reply With Quote
Old 10-05-2011, 07:37 PM   #1488
PortlandPatrick
Recipes 
 
May 2010
Portland, Maine
Posts: 124
Liked 7 Times on 6 Posts


Quote:
Originally Posted by kennethm View Post
I made a version of this with 5 gal aj 1 lbs light dme 1 lbs amber dme and threw is .5 oz goldings. O.G. was 1.058 and. F.G. was 1.000. Its about 2 months old and has a nice apple flavor with just a slight bit of malt and hops. But does have a sour or dry finnish. This is my first cidar so not sure if its supposed to be as sour/ dry at the finnish. Any thoughts?

It'll be pretty dry if you let it drop from 1.058 to 1.000 - you can avoid that next time by either catching it before it drops that low (cold crashing, racking a few times, sulfites), or backsweetening it.

When you say it's sour, do you mean tart? Again, with the low FG it'll be dry and tart, because of the lack of sugar. I've used various juices and ciders and noticed that some start out a little sour but mellow over time. If it's "sour", then you may have experienced a little contamination, but assuming you drink it fast enough, it's likely nothing lose sleep over.

The yeast you use influences the final body and flavor, too, of course.

Reason: typo

 
Reply With Quote
Old 10-08-2011, 02:11 AM   #1489
Clifton
Recipes 
 
Jun 2007
Posts: 695
Liked 47 Times on 40 Posts


The sourness could also be from you apple juice if it has added Vitamin C (ascorbic acid).

 
Reply With Quote
Old 10-09-2011, 01:56 AM   #1490
HIbrew
Recipes 
 
Apr 2010
Haverhill, MA
Posts: 21

Just made my first batch of Graff. I followed the recipe loosely, and used carapils instead of torrified wheat, and used Centennial hops for the boil.

I didn't have any apple juice around but since it is apple season here, I went out and got 10 lbs of "drops." They were all in good shape, so I just sliced them about 3-4 mm thick and put them in the finished wort. The yeast should break down the sliced apples and should leave them as a pulpy mess that I can strain out. That's the plan anyway. Has anyone else tried something like this?
__________________
Primary:
OctoberFast
Bottled:
Cooper Hill Amber
Blackberry Wine
Brandon O's Graff

 
Reply With Quote


Reply
Thread Tools


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Hopped Cider compact007 Cider Forum 8 11-15-2014 10:13 AM
Malty cider, whadya think? casebrew Cider Forum 4 09-04-2011 01:48 PM
Graff tastes slightly of yeast/wine... bfbf Cider Forum 3 11-06-2009 01:46 PM
Graff cider: where did this krausen come from? voberoi Cider Forum 2 10-09-2009 06:29 AM
Finally, hopped cider Talcottsk Cider Forum 1 05-11-2006 09:56 PM


Forum Jump