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Old 05-01-2009, 04:09 AM   #1
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First off, let me preface this by the fact that I do not care at all that a judge made an error - I am always pleased to get feedback on my beers.

But,

just curious - my score sheet listed the following:

Aroma = 9
Appearance = 2
Flavor = 16
Mouthfeel = 4
Overall = 8
Total = 37 (9+2+16+4+8 should = 39)

Again, I don't care - my beer was good and the judges agreed, but just wondering how often this happens, and why.

Oh, and it did mean the difference between a silver and broze - but again, I seriously don't care about that

 
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Old 05-01-2009, 04:53 AM   #2
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If you really didn't care, you would not know that it made a difference in your placing. And, you should care about those details. IMO, there is no room for error if your judging something, no matter what it is. If you're judging something, you should be an expert in that field. At the very least you should know basic addition.

I know that's not the answer you're looking for, but I feel that kind of mistake is unacceptable.

 
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Old 05-01-2009, 04:59 AM   #3
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ok, I do care dammit but not enough to do anything about it. I was pleased with the feed back I received but when I saw the scoresheet, the math just didn't add up

 
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Old 05-01-2009, 05:13 AM   #4
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I can imagine that the feedback is invaluable. Someday I'll enter my brews in a competition. FWIW, if you can, you should consider letting the judge know about the mistake, in a nice way. He or she would probably really appreciate that, and if they really care, they will pay more attention so they don't make that mistake again. In the long run, it will make them better at what they do.

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Old 05-01-2009, 05:25 AM   #5
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If you really didn't care, you would not know that it made a difference in your placing. And, you should care about those details. IMO, there is no room for error if your judging something, no matter what it is. If you're judging something, you should be an expert in that field. At the very least you should know basic addition.

I know that's not the answer you're looking for, but I feel that kind of mistake is unacceptable.
Have you ever been to a competition?

AZ, have you seen how the judging usually happens? What were the other scores? Without knowing, it's possible that he was a touch higher than everyone else and agreed to bring it down a touch and forgot to adjust up top.

 
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If you placed, and that is the difference between silver and bronze. You bet your A$$ I would let them know. Some would ask why... But I always ask, Why not?
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Old 05-01-2009, 05:39 AM   #7
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Have you ever been to a competition?

AZ, have you seen how the judging usually happens? What were the other scores? Without knowing, it's possible that he was a touch higher than everyone else and agreed to bring it down a touch and forgot to adjust up top.
no, but what does it matter?? Math is Math, the judge was wrong.

 
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Old 05-01-2009, 05:45 AM   #8
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If you placed, and that is the difference between silver and bronze. You bet your A$$ I would let them know. Some would ask why... But I always ask, Why not?
I've never been in a comp where they go strictly by score to award places. They'll get the top 5 or so and they'll do a mini BOS and they'll pick that way.
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Old 05-01-2009, 11:01 AM   #9
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that is pretty goofy, I'd agree that the judges picked 1,2,3 and forgot to adjust the score (maybe?) I've gotten a bronze for a beer that scored 1 point under the minimum for gold, a silver would have been cool, but the 2 guys ahead of me did better.

out of the 3 judges, only one was BJCP, and he gave me a 42, that made me feel pretty good.

 
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Old 05-01-2009, 11:54 AM   #10
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At a minimum you should let the competition director know. Every comp. I have been to (stewarded or judged) the director mentions several times: "double check your math" and "stewards, please double check the judge's math." I have miss-added on score sheets before, and the steward has caught it (hopefully every time). Sometimes you get to the end of a 13 beer flight simple math can easily escape, not that it was easy to begin with.

 
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