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Old 04-29-2009, 04:13 AM   #1
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I recently had a long talk with the main brewer at The Woodward Avenue Brewery where he told me that the best way to get rid of extract twang is to dry hop with 1/2 an ounce of a low alpha acid hop, preferably one that is in your hop schedule. I have yet to try this, but plan on doing it with my next batch. He recommends Fuggle. Has anyone heard of this technique before?
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Old 04-29-2009, 05:16 AM   #2
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sounds interesting might have to try that in the next batch as well

 
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Old 04-29-2009, 05:27 AM   #3
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I disagree. The best way to get rid of Extract Twang is to get rid of extract. Take the all-grain plunge!!!

 
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Old 04-29-2009, 05:29 AM   #4
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I've never heard of dry hopping to reduce extract twang. Honestly, I don't see how that would work at all. Two techniques that do tend to work are a late extract addition and switching to all grain. Other than that, I don't see hops doing anything to reduce it. Did he happen to mention how that worked?

I get a big BS vibe from that, to be totally honest. Sorry if that sounds like an a-hole comment, but without some kind of reason how/why it would work, I'm just not feeling it.
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Old 04-29-2009, 10:59 AM   #5
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I've never heard of dry hopping to reduce extract twang. Honestly, I don't see how that would work at all. Two techniques that do tend to work are a late extract addition and switching to all grain. Other than that, I don't see hops doing anything to reduce it. Did he happen to mention how that worked?

I get a big BS vibe from that, to be totally honest. Sorry if that sounds like an a-hole comment, but without some kind of reason how/why it would work, I'm just not feeling it.
You would be feeling it if you had woodward ave. beer !!!

 
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Old 04-29-2009, 12:30 PM   #6
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I think its not necessarily getting rid of extract. Its just getting rid of bad extract. Make sure all liquid extract is very fresh. DME keeps longer but shouldn't be stale. Full boils with late additions will also help.

If that doesn't work, then its AG. I'm an AG'er, but I don't blindly endorse it. There are plenty of great brewers here who brew PM or Extract with no problems. It can be done, just pay attention to every detail.

 
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Old 04-29-2009, 12:51 PM   #7
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At best I would think it would only mask it. I've had excellent success with LME by a) always shutting off heat when adding and stirring constantly and b) late add addition.

 
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Old 04-29-2009, 02:10 PM   #8
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I've been doing extract with steeped grains and the occasional partial mash. I have not had the twang for some time, and this coming from others not my own baised taste buds. I think the biggest factor was late additions. I can only do 4g boils, but adding the extract in the last 20 minutes has made a drastic improvment in the beer overall.
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Old 04-29-2009, 04:50 PM   #9
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I've never heard of dry hopping to reduce extract twang. Honestly, I don't see how that would work at all. Two techniques that do tend to work are a late extract addition and switching to all grain. Other than that, I don't see hops doing anything to reduce it. Did he happen to mention how that worked?

I get a big BS vibe from that, to be totally honest. Sorry if that sounds like an a-hole comment, but without some kind of reason how/why it would work, I'm just not feeling it.
I am building an all grain setup gradually and plan on switching next year, or this summer/fall if I am feeling frisky. He did not say how it worked. It came up when we were talking about bottle conditioning. I find that the twang goes away after 3-4 months in the bottle, which is way longer than I am willing to wait. My next batch is going to be a partial mash, considering adding half of my extract late. I don't blame you for not feeling it, kinda sounds too good to be true.
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You would be feeling it if you had woodward ave. beer !!!
In that case, my LHBS says that you can reduce or even eliminate extract twang by shipping some of this Woodward Ave beer to certain lethargic quadrapedal relatives of the alpaca. PM me for more info about that particular program.
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