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Old 04-14-2009, 08:15 PM   #1
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Hey all - anyone know of a good Saranac Pale Ale clone recipe or something similar? I'm looking for a real nice session pale ale. I've always found myself going back to Saranac time and time again and I'd love to craft one similar to it. Any help or advice?

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Old 04-14-2009, 08:41 PM   #2
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It's pretty basic, IIRC.

Here's the listing on FX Matt's website.

Here's the important data:

Malt: Pale, English Crystal
Hops: EK Goldings, Cascades
OG: 13.5P (1.055)
ABV: 5.5%

Doesn't give any info on IBU or SRM. But I can combine personal experience and other people's tasting notes to arrive at a reasonable fascimile, I think.

First, color. Described as 'copper', 'golden', 'amber', 'bronze', 'red'. I'd put that somewhere between 9 and 14 SRM. I remember it being somewhat deeper amber than golden.

Second, IBU. I don't remember this as being overly bitter, but I do remember citrusy American hops in the finish. I'd bitter this to no more than 40 IBU, probably around 35 (0.64 BU:GU ratio).

Now, let's come up with a grist. First, the bulk grain is going to be pale malt, more than probably US 2-row. UK Crystal is used for color and flavor. A good place to start would be 90% 2-row to 10% 60L UK Crystal. In my brewery, that'd be 9 lbs 2-row and 1 lb Crystal to get an OG of 1.055 in 5 US gallons.

Now, to bitter. FX Matt doesn't say what hops they use where. But I remember Cascades in the finish (as do the reviewers), so that's what we'll do. I wouldn't waste Goldings for bittering, so I'd sub in something else like Northern Brewer or Perle. An ounce of Perle pellets at 8% AA will give about 36 IBU in 5 US gallons; finish with a half-ounce of Cascades at flameout.

Now, to fermentation. We know - because Matt's has reported it - that Saranac Pale Ale is 5.5% ABV. As we know the OG, we can use the ABV to calculate the FG, which we can use to figure attenuation and help us choose a yeast.

OG = 1.055 FG = 1.013 = 5.5% ABV = 76% attenuation. I don't remember any fruity, estery character to the beer, so we're looking for a clean American ale yeast that will attenuate that far. Wyeast 1056 will give that profile and attenuation, as will S-05 (the dry version of 1056) and White Labs WLP001. In fact, I recommend WLP001 in this instance, properly pitched using the Mr Malty Pitching Rate Calculator.

How's that sound?

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Old 01-16-2010, 02:53 AM   #3
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Thanks Bob, this will be my next project.

 
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Old 01-17-2010, 07:33 PM   #4
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Out of curiosity, if I was to use a LME, what would be an appropriate selection?

 
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Old 01-19-2010, 05:20 PM   #5
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The freshest pale extract you can find. That generally means one of the larger online suppliers. Briess Gold is a good choice. Many retailers sell Briess LME as their "store brand" extract syrup.

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Old 01-23-2010, 10:09 PM   #6
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Thanks Bob! 6.6 pounds appropriate?


 
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Old 01-24-2010, 02:40 AM   #7
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Probably not. Plug the extract amounts into your favorite software and figure out how much extract gets you to 1.055.

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I hate to dredge up such old thread, but has anyone ever tried this? I was wondering how close it came to the real thing.
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Anybody?

I'm thinking of trying a 1 gallon batch to see how close it will come.
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I have not brewed this recipe, but was looking for Saranac's Imperial IPA (High Peak series), which I used to really like.

The only thing I noticed with that Imperial IPA, after I starting to brew my own more seriously and tasting many others, I found it to be very sweet, more than I find desirable in an (I)IPA at this point. Still a decent IIPA for certain occasions and it's priced nicely.

Although I never tasted it, I wonder if the Pale Ale also has that relative sweetness.

This is from their website:
“Our hop injection technology brings out the flavor and aroma of Bramling Cross hops-the sharpest English hop available.” - Jim Kuhr, Master Brewer (makes an annual trip to Worcester, England to hand pick our Bramling Cross hops)

BEER STYLE: English Pale Ale
MALTS: Crystal, Two-Row
HOPS: Cascade, Bramling Cross, Fuggles, East Kent Golding
ABV: 5.5%
IBU: 32



 
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