HBT 2015 Big Giveaway - This is it - Final Weekend to Enter!

Huge Supporting Membership Discounts - 20% Off - Final Weekend!

Home Brew Forums > Wine, Mead, Cider, Sake & Soda > Cider Forum > Ed Worts Apfelwein experiment
Reply
 
Thread Tools
Old 04-04-2009, 05:44 AM   #1
gahrens
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
Recipes 
 
Join Date: Mar 2008
Location: Romeoville, IL
Posts: 17
Default Ed Worts Apfelwein experiment

I made up my first 5 gallons as indicated by his recipie two weeks ago.
Decided to do an experiment for the next batch that I just finished.

This time used gallons of apple juice from whole foods already in 1 gal glass "carboys" It was cloudy apple juice. Pasturized. No additives.

Corrected for additional juice and added 5oz corn sugar for each quart of added 100% juice. Organic stuff from whole foods.
I did make a small yeast starter, (distilled water and a lil bit of apple juice,) about an hour before pitching and eyeballed it to equally split amongst the 5 gallons made with montrachet yeast.

1 gal, as per Ed Wort's spec.
1 gal + 4 cinnamon sticks.
1 gal w/ 1qt apple juice removed and 1qt pomgranate juice added.
1 gal w/ 1qt apple juice removed and 1qt cranberry juice added.
1 gal w/ 1qt apple juice removed and 1qt black cherry juice added.
1 gal, used grand cuvee yeast. Eyeballed about 1/4 - 1/5 of the packet (Was told it is one notch up the ladder sweeter than montrachet.)
I was going to do one with grape juice added but after getting home and doing the math I found I wouldn't have had enough applejuice. What the hell, would have probably just tasted like wine anyway.

The juice may be too much, 32oz, who knows. It's an experiment.
I couldn't take an OG reading unfortunately. I dropped the hydrometer while hauling equipment upstairs.
I am thinking the apple cranberry and the one with cinnamon will be the best.
I'll ferment for a month and then bottle for another. Will sample at bottling and update.
Anyone have any input?
gahrens is offline
 
Reply With Quote
Old 04-04-2009, 11:56 AM   #2
spitfire
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
Recipes 
 
Join Date: Jul 2008
Location: Bloomsburg, PA
Posts: 232
Liked 1 Times on 1 Posts

Default

When doing these 1 gallon batches, are you still using the whole packet of yeast for each gallon or do you split the yeast up equally for each batch? I assume you just use a rubber stopper and an airlock, or just using foil?
spitfire is offline
 
Reply With Quote
Old 04-04-2009, 12:53 PM   #3
gahrens
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
Recipes 
 
Join Date: Mar 2008
Location: Romeoville, IL
Posts: 17
Default

Split up the pack of montrachet wine yeast equally (eyeball) amongst the 5.
I did make a small starter w/ distilled water and a little bit of applejuice.

#6 rubber stopper and a 3 piece airlock.
gahrens is offline
 
Reply With Quote
Old 04-04-2009, 06:12 PM   #4
Nomadic_Joel
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
Recipes 
 
Join Date: Mar 2009
Location: Vancouver British Columbia
Posts: 87
Liked 1 Times on 1 Posts

Default

4 Cinnamon sticks for 1 gallon may be crazy amounts too much.....I know the mead guys that do 1 gallon batches do 1 stick per 1 gallon batch.....eek...
?
Nomadic_Joel is offline
 
Reply With Quote
Old 04-04-2009, 07:31 PM   #5
Freezeblade
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
Recipes 
 
Join Date: May 2008
Location: Oakland, California
Posts: 1,415
Liked 24 Times on 14 Posts

Default

Yeah, that's going to be really cinnamon-y probably a bit over-powered, imho
__________________
Primary:Russian River Redemption clone, Kelly's Melomel, Graham's English Cider 22-23
Clearing:Apple Wine
Aging:Public House Dry Stout, Procrastination Porter, Mr. Brown Ale, Westvleteren 12 Clone, Mead, Duvel Clone, Graham's English Cider 6-21, Belgian Draak Strong Ale, Fig Melomel, Acerglyn, Restorative Tonic Metheglyn
Freezeblade is offline
 
Reply With Quote
Old 04-04-2009, 07:41 PM   #6
gahrens
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
Recipes 
 
Join Date: Mar 2008
Location: Romeoville, IL
Posts: 17
Default

HAHA ops.
I have a tool I'll sterilize and grab 3 of them out when I get home.
Guess I should have done some research before doing this on the fly.
gahrens is offline
 
Reply With Quote
Old 04-04-2009, 11:10 PM   #7
Nomadic_Joel
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
Recipes 
 
Join Date: Mar 2009
Location: Vancouver British Columbia
Posts: 87
Liked 1 Times on 1 Posts

Default

no worries...yeah...pull 3 out for sure..
Nomadic_Joel is offline
 
Reply With Quote
Old 04-05-2009, 02:24 PM   #8
gahrens
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
Recipes 
 
Join Date: Mar 2008
Location: Romeoville, IL
Posts: 17
Default

Fermenting at 70*F


gahrens is offline
 
Reply With Quote
Old 06-12-2009, 05:45 PM   #9
unclejimbay
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
Recipes 
 
Join Date: Mar 2009
Location: Jacksonville Beach, FL
Posts: 47
Default

gahrens,
hey these look great, I am curious to see how they turn out. You mentioned you may bottle them this weekend, keep us posted on the tasting results. Thanks for your post and messages.

UJ
unclejimbay is offline
 
Reply With Quote
Old 06-12-2009, 05:49 PM   #10
Brandon O
Knapsnatchio
HBT_LIFETIMESUPPORTER.png
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
 
Brandon O's Avatar
Recipes 
 
Join Date: Jun 2008
Location: Tempe
Posts: 1,238
Liked 39 Times on 10 Posts

Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Nomadic_Joel View Post
no worries...yeah...pull 3 out for sure..
I did a batch with one cinnamon stick left in the primary for a month.

It was terrible, way too much cinnamon.

Steeping a cinnamon stick in a quart of water and then adding that and leaving the stick behind add plenty of cinnamon flavor IMO.
Brandon O is offline
 
Reply With Quote
Reply


Thread Tools


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
My first batch of Ed Worts Apfelwein! ELittle Cider Forum 17 03-15-2009 09:51 PM
Ed Worts Apfelwein in 6 gal carboy? schristian619 Recipes/Ingredients 6 06-24-2008 11:01 PM
apfelwein mutant... (verges on hooch, just an experiment) duneman101 Cider Forum 4 05-07-2008 05:26 AM
War of The Worts Ashz General Beer Discussion 6 02-25-2008 06:43 PM
How long to bottle Ed Worts apfelwein? St. Jon's Wort Cider Forum 2 10-13-2007 08:46 PM


Forum Jump

Newest Threads

LATEST SPONSOR DEALS