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Old 05-26-2009, 01:24 PM   #201
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I don't think insulation on a collar would help with foaming. With your faucets in the cold area, insulation would just help the freezer to run more efficiently. A fan would help with stratification, moving the coldest air from the bottom and keeping your taps colder.
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That would definitely make sense I will look into it.
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I was thinking more about the electric bill than I was about foaming.
I have a device at work (not exactly sure what it's called) but it will show me how much power this bad boy is pulling. Once I figure out how much it is I will share, and see if it's worth insulating
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Old 05-26-2009, 02:28 PM   #202
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I have a device at work (not exactly sure what it's called) but it will show me how much power this bad boy is pulling. Once I figure out how much it is I will share, and see if it's worth insulating
Would be very interesting to see power usage before and after certain tweaks.

Having such a large freezer probably factors into this in your situation, but in general, what are the merits of a 2" thick collar vs. 1"? It seems like everyone uses 2x's... are 1x's too flimsy even for a smaller collar? It seems if 1x's were stiff enough they would be preferable for a few reasons: Cost of lumber, cost of shanks, room for insulation, and weight.

Precisely how do you determine how long your shanks need to be (i.e. how much length do the various fittings take up)?

Don't take this a criticism of your project. I'm just trying to plan out my own more reasonably sized keezer. It is my first order of business after I move next month

 
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Old 05-26-2009, 02:44 PM   #203
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Not criticism at all, I love questions!

My decision to go with 2x4's was based on the lid of my freezer. I found that it fit very well onto the base of the freezer, and would mimic the original lid. I wanted a thicker piece of wood for the look as well as durability.

the 4" long shanks were purchased because it was the first size that I saw that was stainless. Also, I knew that a 4" would fit through the wood, so I went for it.

Hope that helps, or clarifies it a bit!
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Old 05-26-2009, 11:41 PM   #204
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Insulation shouldn't have a major effect on the electric bill. because cold air sinks, chest freezers will still be pretty efficient even if you lose a bit of insulation.

This is why grocery stores can afforably have massive freezers in the middle of a floor without lids.

I notice i can leave the lid open for a long time tinkering with stuff before it will ever drop as much as a degree.
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Old 05-27-2009, 01:16 AM   #205
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Insulation shouldn't have a major effect on the electric bill. because cold air sinks, chest freezers will still be pretty efficient even if you lose a bit of insulation.

This is why grocery stores can afforably have massive freezers in the middle of a floor without lids.

I notice i can leave the lid open for a long time tinkering with stuff before it will ever drop as much as a degree.
What is the temperature at the level of your collar?

 
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Old 05-27-2009, 12:39 PM   #206
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Insulation shouldn't have a major effect on the electric bill. because cold air sinks, chest freezers will still be pretty efficient even if you lose a bit of insulation.

This is why grocery stores can afforably have massive freezers in the middle of a floor without lids.

I notice i can leave the lid open for a long time tinkering with stuff before it will ever drop as much as a degree.
This of course is assuming your temp probe is at the bottom of the fridge.
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Old 05-27-2009, 08:38 PM   #207
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This of course is assuming your temp probe is at the bottom of the fridge.
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What is the temperature at the level of your collar?
You're both right, the top temp will drop. And my probe is about 1 foot off the bottom.

My point isn't that the temp won't change, but rather that the difference between a perfectly sealed collar and a mediocre one won't destroy your pocketbook!*

*Unless your fridge is in a hut in Afghanistan.
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Old 05-31-2009, 01:40 PM   #208
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Sweet build man very informative.

 
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Old 06-02-2009, 08:41 AM   #209
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Fun looking build.

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Old 06-09-2009, 05:38 PM   #210
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How goes the Kilted Keezer of the Apocalypse?
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