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Old 03-13-2009, 06:36 PM   #11
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We started out with the old 1,2,3 rule
One week in primary
two weeks in secondary
three weeks in bottle

We use all glass (ss for the conical) and usually stay in the primary 3-4 weeks. With plastic buckets i would want to get it transferred to glass in 7-10 days
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Old 03-13-2009, 06:55 PM   #12
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With plastic buckets i would want to get it transferred to glass in 7-10 days
FWIW, I keep beer in primary in plastic buckets 3+ weeks with no problem.
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I never knew i had a problem with the buckets. Its just all that you read and worried about the leakage of oxygen into the bucket that was supposed to be bad that moved us off the buckets.

And we collected a bunch of glass from friends so we dont need the buckets.

When it comes to cleaning up 160 f PBW makes the glass into new and kills everything and i can see its clean.

But bottom line is we never had a problem (that i knew about)
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I use 13 gallon plastic carboys. Never had a oxidized beer yet. Also have used 5g water bottles and of course glass.

I think a lot of these fears are overblown, but peace of mind is peace of mind.
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I use 13 gallon plastic carboys. Never had a oxidized beer yet. Also have used 5g water bottles and of course glass.

I think a lot of these fears are overblown, but peace of mind is peace of mind.
Where'd you find 13 gal buckets?
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Ok, good stuff to know. Looks like I'll have to get a few more primary buckets...
I had to do the same thing, get another primary. I leave my wort on the yeast for 14 days minumum and up to 28 days maximum. I have 4 Better bottle secondary's and I could not fill them fast enough because I have only one primary bucket. Needless to say, I picked up two more primary buckets cheap and the necessary lids, bungs, etc. Now my problem is that I am hooked on Apfelwein and I need more secondaries because I have two in Apfelwein, one with a Wee-Heavy and one with a dubbel. Nothing will be empty for three weeks and I have beer brewing Jones to feed. Good luck and buy another bucket, they are some of the cheapest equipment.
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I had to do the same thing, get another primary. I leave my wort on the yeast for 14 days minumum and up to 28 days maximum. I have 4 Better bottle secondary's and I could not fill them fast enough because I have only one primary bucket. Needless to say, I picked up two more primary buckets cheap and the necessary lids, bungs, etc. Now my problem is that I am hooked on Apfelwein and I need more secondaries because I have two in Apfelwein, one with a Wee-Heavy and one with a dubbel. Nothing will be empty for three weeks and I have beer brewing Jones to feed. Good luck and buy another bucket, they are some of the cheapest equipment.
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Where'd you find 13 gal buckets?
They are carboys, not buckets. I bought them through a wine supply place here called wine kitz. They use a number 13 bung. I think they are HDPE.

Cost me $25 CAD.

I also ran across this site: 50 Liter Containers,Narrow Mouth Containers,50 Liter Containers Manufacturers,Narrow Mouth Containers Manufacturers,India

These look interesting. Hmmm.. If I ever convert to a220v electric system I might order 3 of the 100L vessels as hlt, mlt and kettle.
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how long do real breweries (New belgium, Starr Hill, Sam Adams) ferment a pale ale before bottling? for some reason, I think it is short, like 10 days. anyone know?
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I think the long running debate over racking to secondary basically shows that any benefits are minor to non-existent. If it really made beer that much better then everyone would be in agreement that you should do it.

Personally, I think that any benefits from secondary fermentation are outweighed by the extra risks of infection and oxygenation so I gave up doing it a while ago. Now I just leave my brews in the primary for 3 weeks then bottle and I've not noticed any difference.
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