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Old 03-02-2009, 02:14 PM   #1
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So a friend and I have just started brewing. So far, we have done 4 batches. Our method has been steeping grains with extract brewing. We have found that using muslin bags really helps with filtering the hops in addition to filtering the grains. Sometimes recipes call for 2 different types of hops, at beginning and then near end of boil. So, you can use up to 3 muslin bags per batch. At $1 each at the local brew store I can see that adding up very quickly. Been searching online for a deal on muslin bags to no avail. Was wondering if there are other/better methods of straining instead of muslin bags? I have seen such things as false bottoms but not really sure how those work and if they would help with this. Thanks for any help.

 
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Old 03-02-2009, 02:21 PM   #2
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Use nylon bags. They cost $3-$5 each, but they are reusable.
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Old 03-02-2009, 02:24 PM   #3
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I have one nylon bag i use formash/steeping.Then i just throw the hops in the boil,and filter the wort through it later.Works fine for me

 
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Old 03-02-2009, 02:33 PM   #4
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I've seen those nylon bags. Would a good way of cleaning them to be in the washing machine with some bleach?

 
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Old 03-02-2009, 02:35 PM   #5
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I haven't tried that, but I would think that a dishwasher or bleach would probably destroy them. The two together would probably disintegrate the poor thing. I just clean it out under the sink, stretching it a bit to free the miscellaneous particles, then soak it in PBW for a few minutes.
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Old 03-02-2009, 02:37 PM   #6
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I've seen those nylon bags. Would a good way of cleaning them to be in the washing machine with some bleach?
Honestly just turning them inside out and washing them with the rest of my brew stuff (stir spoon, thermometer, ETC) in the sink works fine.

Plus if its a little dirty from last time, thats more flavor!
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Old 03-02-2009, 02:38 PM   #7
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Well, it's not like they have to be 100% super clean and sterile. Clean is good, but I don't go overboard. It's just going to get tossed right back into boiling water.
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Old 03-02-2009, 02:41 PM   #8
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Weve been using one step cleaner. I might just try using that and washing in the sink. Thanks.

About the one step cleaner now, we have just been using that to clean everything pre-bottling. We havent noticed any ill effects of using just that, but I have seen sanitizers in addition to cleaners. Is there really a need for two steps of cleaning and sanatizing?

 
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Some people use one step and will swear by it. Then again, some people eat Vegemite and will swear by that. I've been told multiple times that one step is a cleaner and not a sanitizer.

That being said, I used one step once, and only once, on my first batch. No infection to speak of. Just to be on the safe side, I switched to PBW for cleaning and Star San for sanitizing, and never looked back.

Edited: On the other side of the fence, I remember hearing a Basic Brewing podcast from a year or so ago. They talked about some brewers that never use sanitizer, and never have a problem. There comes a point where if you clean vigorously enough, you remove enough bacteria for your tools to be effectively sanitized. That just sounds like work to me.
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Old 03-02-2009, 02:46 PM   #10
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I buy large sheets of muslin, which I then cut to size, for my cooking and recently my brewing at a local haberdashers store in Dublin.
When I've used them I then take the sheet of muslin and boil it with an oxyplus cleaner and then put it through a normal wash, sanitise it before next use and then use it again, I don't see the problem with reuse.

 
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