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Old 03-01-2009, 03:51 AM   #11
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I purposely collected wort to allow for a long boil. It is a Scottish Ale and I wanted to really caramelize the hell out of it. There was no scorching, but a good layer of caramelized wort on the bottom.

I watched my runoff closely, and the gravity never dropped so low on the runnings that I was worried about tannins (I understand the idea of fly sparging and not letting your gravity drop too low. It is basic brewing principle.) This beer will be just fine, if not excellent.

I am happy with my normal 70-75% efficiency. I was just amazed at the jump just because of a little extra water. I won't be doing 3 hour boils on a regular basis, because that's really not appropriate for most styles.

 
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Old 03-01-2009, 08:19 PM   #12
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Old 03-01-2009, 08:30 PM   #13
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That debate forum is just silly. I can't even read it anymore, so I stick to the brewing forums. I'm thinking that I might even cut back on some of them too, so I don't have to read about PET vs glass again.

 
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Old 03-01-2009, 08:36 PM   #14
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Old 03-01-2009, 11:23 PM   #15
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That debate forum is just silly. I can't even read it anymore, so I stick to the brewing forums. I'm thinking that I might even cut back on some of them too, so I don't have to read about PET vs glass again.
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Old 03-01-2009, 11:48 PM   #16
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As long as the SG of the runnings doesn't drop below around 1.004 you should not get tannin extraction.

That said, finer crush will help a ton.
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Old 03-02-2009, 12:18 AM   #17
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All that I DO know is that when I sparge 7.5 gallons for a 90 min boil... my runnings are down to 1.008 every time. I cannot imagine running off another 2.2 gallons.

But like he said, this is not a common practice. And in any case, to each thier own.

 
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Old 03-02-2009, 01:36 AM   #18
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There is a difference between mash efficiency and lauter efficiency as Kaiser has pointed out. It seems the OP isn't getting good lauter efficiency to begin with.

 
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There is a difference between mash efficiency and lauter efficiency as Kaiser has pointed out. It seems the OP isn't getting good lauter efficiency to begin with.

Often it's from sparging to quickly. 60 min sparge is what I am for. That's for a fly sparge.
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Old 03-02-2009, 02:20 AM   #20
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I am generally around 30 minutes for my fly sparge.

 
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