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Old 08-08-2012, 01:53 PM   #241
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What I like the most about the British ale experience is the "nitrogen served"/"hand pumped" head and mouth feel, along with the warmer serving temps, malty taste, etc.

The Altera pump is one solution, but mine never really did shake the plastic taste. Plus, as mentioned above, it is not designed to draw 1/4 or 1/2 pint at time. This not only takes more time to pump, it takes more time to settle the cascade. The newest pump does not leak like the first one (beer squirted out the side of handle with each pump!), but it's still a little messy.

My latest trick is to use a regular corny keg. It can either be naturally or forced to a low CO2 rate. After it's carbonated (if forced), I disconnect the CO2. For serving, I turn the regulator up to about 25, and reconnect the CO2, preventing more CO2 from dissolving, but forcing the beer out at a higher rate. I then put a bottle filler on the spout of a picnic tap as a restrictor (it fits right in the hole), and serve. With care, you can fill a 1/2 pint, wait for the cascade, and then complete the fill. Viola! Nitro-system/handpump on the cheap.



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Old 08-08-2012, 02:09 PM   #242
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Hmm, interesting BrewingRob. I assume the bottle filler tip is on/off? The couple times I've done the "British ale experience" is either by gravity out of a collapsible carboy or using a syringe in a pint to "inject" air and/or force CO2 out. Always got a weird look doing that.


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Old 03-04-2013, 10:33 PM   #243
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I've done both. You have to do it gently if the tip is on, making sure to only press down on the tap handle when it is touching the bottom of the glass (i.e. when it's open so that you don't blow the tip off). The other thing I've tried is making a modified "sparkler" by melting divots into the side of the black nipple. The results are similar either way.

 
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Old 09-18-2013, 01:14 PM   #244
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Has anyone had any sort of off flavor when they serve with this pump.?

I'm trying to narrow down what might be causing this with my setup.

I'm using the 1 gallon collaspable kegs.. they are food grade. My only thought might be the tube I used may not be food grade.

Any thoughts?
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Old 01-07-2015, 08:54 PM   #245
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This might be a cool thing for me, I usually shut down my garage keezer for the winter since it's kinda pain to keep it going without freezing all the time, can be done but most times in bad temps the shanks/faucets freeze. Anyhow, are most people using a fridge or without? My basement most winter is 65ish... so thinking it might be cold enough that I don't need a fridge?
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Old 12-02-2015, 12:23 AM   #246
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Old thread I know, but a helpful one nonetheless. I brewed up a lovely clone of Left Hand's Milk Stout and I knew I wanted to try it as a cask beer. I bought one of the rocket pumps that people have been using.

Ugh. While the foamer I made worked decently, the tastes I got from the thing were terrible. Plasticy, bitter... I had rinsed and passed water through it too. I turned right around and confirmed it wasn't the beer by using my picnic tap. Yummy. The volume of liquid that stays in this pump is quite high too, so I'd be afraid of it becoming an incubator. Draining it after every pour would be a PITA and totally impractical.

Looks like I either need to bite the bullet and go nitro or get a real beer engine.

 
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Old 12-02-2015, 05:10 AM   #247

The rocket pump had a drain position.
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Old 12-02-2015, 05:12 AM   #248

You should try to flush it out with baking soda and water. Often the plastic taste comes from not food grade tubing.
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Old 12-03-2015, 06:55 PM   #249
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I built a beer engine like the one shown in BYO magazine, with the rocket pump, and I have been through several kegs of ale without any issues? No plastic taste, etc.

If I am going to let it sit for a long period of time, I just run some hot water and then star san through it first.

 
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Old 02-21-2016, 01:50 PM   #250

I need to fire my beer engine up....


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