Why the Heck won't my Beer Clear?! - Home Brew Forums

Register Now!
Home Brew Forums > Home Brewing Beer > General Techniques > Why the Heck won't my Beer Clear?!

Reply
 
Thread Tools
Old 02-24-2009, 02:39 PM   #1
jacksonbrown
 
jacksonbrown's Avatar
Recipes 
 
Mar 2008
Madison, WI
Posts: 1,180
Liked 7 Times on 7 Posts



I am at a loss. I feel like I've tried everything. Polyclar is the only thing that's worked for me so far, but I don't want to shell out money for clarity when I know it's possible without it.
Example, my batch of RIPA: 4 weeks in the primary, 5 days in secondary with dry hops, 4.5 weeks in tertiary (to get it off the hops), kegged and kept at 34 deg F for one week. And it's still murky as all heck.
I use Irish Moss in nearly every batch, and I'm still getting nothing.
Is it something in my technique I might b overlooking? Any help would be greatly appreciated since I do want to start submitting brews to competitions. And I just can't do that with murky beer.
Thanks.

 
Reply With Quote
Old 02-24-2009, 02:45 PM   #2
Evan!
 
Evan!'s Avatar
Recipes 
 
Aug 2006
Charlottesville, VA
Posts: 11,863
Liked 87 Times on 72 Posts


I've found that, with hoppy beers, you will be hard-pressed to get perfect clarity. It doesn't surprise me that it's not clearing after being dry-hopped. I have no idea what the science is behind it, but when I make big IIPA's, etc., they never clear completely.

If it's not a big hoppy beer, then all I can suggest is cold-crashing, and also paying attention to your yeast strains, because they all have different flocculation properties. Wyeast 1968, for instance, tends to produce crystal clear beer several days after fermentation is done. WLP570, on the other hand, takes months to clear completely.
__________________
MOSS HOLLOW BREWING CO.
Aristocratic Ales, Lascivious Lagers


.planned:
•Scottish 80/- •Sweet Stout •Roggenbier
.primary | bright:
98: Moss Hollow Soured '09 72: Oude Kriek 99: B-Weisse 102: Brett'd BDSA 104: Feat of Strength Helles Bock 105: Merkin Brown
.on tap | kegged:
XX: Moss Hollow Springs Sparkling Water 95: Gott Mit Uns German Pils 91b: Brown Willie's Oaked Abbey Ale 103: Merkin Stout
98: Yorkshire Special 100: Maple Porter 89: Cidre Saison 101: Steffiweizen '09 (#3)

 
Reply With Quote
Old 02-24-2009, 02:47 PM   #3
jacksonbrown
 
jacksonbrown's Avatar
Recipes 
 
Mar 2008
Madison, WI
Posts: 1,180
Liked 7 Times on 7 Posts


For the RIPA I use Pacman. But I also have an Ordinary Bitter on tap, which I did use Poluclar on, and it's also murky. I left the polyclar in for 5 days instead of the recommended 10, but I also do crash all my brews once in the keg.

 
Reply With Quote
Old 02-24-2009, 03:03 PM   #4
Slipgate
Recipes 
 
Jun 2008
Damascus, MD
Posts: 591
Liked 16 Times on 16 Posts


The IPA that I have currently on tap that was dry-hopped with 3 oz of hops is crystal clear. In fact, it is the clearest beer I have ever made. Almost every time I pour a pint I marvel in the clarity. I don't really know what I did right, but something happened! It also cooincidently has the best "lace" of any beer that I have done. This is at least my 10th batch of this recipe too.

The one thing that I did that I did not do before was to dry hop in the keg. Then I racked to another keg before tapping. Perhaps the keg dry hopping made sure that not a speck of sunlight or air hit the beer and that made all the difference? I don't know but I am doing the exact same with this batch of IPA and I'll let you know when I tap it in a couple of weeks.

All the stars lined up on this one I guess!

 
Reply With Quote
Old 02-24-2009, 05:10 PM   #5
illinibrew04
Recipes 
 
Aug 2007
Posts: 152

I had this problem too when I started AG. I used Irish moss, increased aging time, etc. to no avail. I have just one word for you...WHIRLFLOC! The first time I used a whirlfloc tablet instead of irish moss I got incredible clarity. It's been like that ever since and I'll never go back...plus it's cheap.

 
Reply With Quote
Old 02-24-2009, 05:14 PM   #6
Bokonon
Recipes 
 
Mar 2007
Tri-Cities, WA
Posts: 1,283
Liked 14 Times on 14 Posts


Quote:
Originally Posted by illinibrew04 View Post
I had this problem too when I started AG. I used Irish moss, increased aging time, etc. to no avail. I have just one word for you...WHIRLFLOC! The first time I used a whirlfloc tablet instead of irish moss I got incredible clarity. It's been like that ever since and I'll never go back...plus it's cheap.
I'll second whirlfloc. I used to use irish moss and then switched to whirlfloc, mostly for ease of use (no need to measure or rehydrate).

When I switched I noticed my beers were clearing up a lot better.

I haven't had to try it, but you can always try gelatin in the keg

 
Reply With Quote
Old 02-24-2009, 05:14 PM   #7
DD2000GT
Recipes 
 
Sep 2008
Garland, TX
Posts: 426
Liked 1 Times on 1 Posts


I made a William's Triple Hop IPA and even dry hopped in the corny keg and it came out very clear - so I kinda question the idea hops cause clarity issues. Also - I just fermented in the primary for 3 weeks - not secondary. The yeast that came with it was Wyeast 1056 American Ale smack pack liquid yeast (not sure if that makes any difference).

 
Reply With Quote
Old 02-24-2009, 05:20 PM   #8
Bokonon
Recipes 
 
Mar 2007
Tri-Cities, WA
Posts: 1,283
Liked 14 Times on 14 Posts


Quote:
Originally Posted by DD2000GT View Post
I made a William's Triple Hop IPA and even dry hopped in the corny keg and it came out very clear - so I kinda question the idea hops cause clarity issues. Also - I just fermented in the primary for 3 weeks - not secondary. The yeast that came with it was Wyeast 1056 American Ale smack pack liquid yeast (not sure if that makes any difference).
I've often wondered the same thing. I speculate that the extra particles in the beer from the hops stick to yeast and other particles and make everything drop out quicker

 
Reply With Quote
Old 02-24-2009, 05:20 PM   #9
cubbies
Tastes like butterdirt
HBT_LIFETIMESUPPORTER.png
 
cubbies's Avatar
Recipes 
 
Nov 2006
St Louis MO
Posts: 1,930
Liked 7 Times on 5 Posts


Quote:
Originally Posted by illinibrew04 View Post
I had this problem too when I started AG. I used Irish moss, increased aging time, etc. to no avail. I have just one word for you...WHIRLFLOC! The first time I used a whirlfloc tablet instead of irish moss I got incredible clarity. It's been like that ever since and I'll never go back...plus it's cheap.
Word

567890

 
Reply With Quote
Old 02-24-2009, 05:27 PM   #10
johnnyc
 
johnnyc's Avatar
Recipes 
 
Jan 2009
North Atlanta, GA
Posts: 669
Liked 9 Times on 7 Posts


I use Whirlfloc and gelatin. The cold break with Whirlfloc is sooo much better than with irish moss. As for the gelatin I just bought the plain gelatin at the grocery and used a tablespoon dissolved in boiled water that you let sit for a few minutes to cool down to carboy temps. I gently stir it in and give it 7-10 days and the beer looks great. For other ideas I went to 6 Tips for Crystal Clear Home Brewed Beer | Home Brewing Beer Blog by BeerSmith and Fining Agents - Improving Beer Clarity | Home Brewing Beer Blog by BeerSmith

BTW this is w/ bottling so I would think kegging would be even better.
__________________
Kegged: Hoppy Amber, ESB, Weizenbock, Breakfast Stout, IPA

Fermenting: Yooper's Oktoberfest

 
Reply With Quote


Reply
Thread Tools


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
WO HOO!!! Clear beer enohcs General Techniques 20 12-18-2010 11:50 PM
Clear beer is no longer clear Mustangfreak General Beer Discussion 2 07-18-2009 02:07 AM
Can not get beer to clear Ramsbottom_Brewer Beginners Beer Brewing Forum 11 04-06-2009 03:17 PM
beer won't clear minexplorer Extract Brewing 17 11-10-2008 01:03 AM
Beer too clear? Reno Homebrewer Beginners Beer Brewing Forum 6 07-04-2008 02:11 AM


Forum Jump