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Old 02-17-2009, 08:58 PM   #1
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I realized yesterday that my next brew will be a bit of a milestone in that it will be brew #100 (sorry, no fight club thread).

I tried a SMaSH that Evan! did last year with Munich (and EKG I believe) and it was a very good beer. I haven't had what I'd call a 'normal' IPA of my own for a while now so I'm thinking about doing this up. Nice and simple, yet should be a beer worthy of my first in the triple digits.

I welcome comments and suggestions. I'm mashing at 148 for 90 minutes and pitching 2 packs of Nottingham. I've had success with these steps on other IPA's in *really* drying them out.

I typically add 1# table sugar to IPA's to aid even more in a dry finish. I left it out of this because although sucrose isn't a malt I'm not sure if adding it will get me kicked out of the SMaSH club.

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Recipe: Munich Magnum SMaSH IPA
Brewer: HopHed Brewhaus
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Style: American IPA
TYPE: All Grain
Taste: (35.0)

Recipe Specifications
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Batch Size: 6.00 gal
Boil Size: 7.25 gal
Estimated OG: 1.070 SG
Estimated Color: 12.8 SRM
Estimated IBU: 80.5 IBU
Brewhouse Efficiency: 75.00 %
Boil Time: 60 Minutes


Ingredients:
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Amount Item Type % or IBU
15.25 lb Munich Malt (9.0 SRM) Grain 100.00 %
0.50 oz Magnum [13.40 %] (60 min) (Mash Hop) Hops 3.1 IBU
2.00 oz Magnum [13.40 %] (60 min) Hops 61.4 IBU
0.75 oz Magnum [13.40 %] (15 min) Hops 11.4 IBU
0.75 oz Magnum [13.40 %] (5 min) Hops 4.6 IBU
2.00 oz Magnum [13.40 %] (Dry Hop 10 days) Hops -

1.00 tsp Irish Moss (Boil 15.0 min) Misc

1 Pkg Nottingham Yeast (Lallemand #-) Yeast-Ale

Mash Schedule: Single Infusion, Medium Body, No Mash Out

Total Grain Weight: 15.25 lb
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Single Infusion, Medium Body, No Mash Out

90 min Mash at 148.0 F


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Old 02-17-2009, 10:10 PM   #2
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Congrats on the milestone. That's awesome. 100 batches of beer in the keg ... 100 batches of beer...

I'd be interested in a take on the flavor and aroma additions of Magnum. I've got some of this but I was assuming it would be for bittering. I've not heard it used for other additions, just that it has a reputation as a clean bittering hop. Not to say it wouldn't be great, I just don't know.


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Old 02-17-2009, 10:15 PM   #3
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From conventional thought, I would have worries about using Magnum for aroma and flavor as everything I've read about them is that they're completely neutral. I've never added Magnum later than 60mins though, so I can't verify. Be the guinea pig and report back.

 
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Old 02-17-2009, 10:18 PM   #4
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From conventional thought, I would have worries about using Magnum for aroma and flavor as everything I've read about them is that they're completely neutral. I've never added Magnum later than 60mins though, so I can't verify. Be the guinea pig and report back.
You've had a commercial example....Torpedo. I couldn't put my finger on what exactly was the slightly muddy hop thing was in that flavor profile until I looked on their site...late magnum additions & dry hopping. I just find it a pretty unremarkable hop for flavor & aroma.

 
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Old 02-18-2009, 01:55 AM   #5
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All munich SMaSH IPA. That sounds good.

 
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Old 02-18-2009, 02:23 AM   #6
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You've had a commercial example....Torpedo. I couldn't put my finger on what exactly was the slightly muddy hop thing was in that flavor profile until I looked on their site...late magnum additions & dry hopping. I just find it a pretty unremarkable hop for flavor & aroma.
Very interesting. Thanks for drawing my attention to this. I'll need to pick up another 6 pack for tasting...drat.

 
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Old 02-18-2009, 02:38 AM   #7
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When you are talking about very dry IPAs are you thinking of West Coast IPAs like Green Flash and Stone, or do you have something else in mind?

 
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Old 02-18-2009, 01:04 PM   #8
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This sounds like a fabulous idea! In fact, you're on the right track historically, too. IPA was in the beginning brewed from pale malt and a ton of hops. In fact, there are a couple of US micros doing just that: a LOT of Maris Otter or other UK Pale Malt and a raft of hops.

I think you're going to end up with a pretty good beer, even though you're attacking it exactly the opposite to how I'd do it. I'd start with Pale Malt and mash high for dextrins, and use a mass of low-alpha UK hops for flavor/aroma.

Loftus's The Brewer, published in London in 1863, calls for the following:

"The malt employed should be [...] of the lightest possible colour, and thoroughly dried."

"The hops [...] known as the Farnhams, Goldings, or the very best East Kents are to be preferred; [...] about 23 lbs. [per quarter of malt used] for the foreign market."

One of these days, I'm going to do another 5-gallon batch of 19th-century Bass IPA. OG greater than 1060, 5 oz of mixed Fuggles and Willamette in the 2-hour boil, another 2.5 oz of the same mix late, another ounce of Kent Goldings dry-hopped.

I can hear you spurting blood from your eyes about the Willamette. But Bass among other breweries reported using up to 50% Californian hops in the boil of their IPAs in the middle of the 19th century. So there. ;P

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From conventional thought, I would have worries about using Magnum for aroma and flavor as everything I've read about them is that they're completely neutral. I've never added Magnum later than 60mins though, so I can't verify. Be the guinea pig and report back.
I'm not sure if the 15, 5 and dry hop additions will do much for me either, but I have 6 free ounces thanks to Hops Direct so I figured this is a good place to use them. If it's lacking in flavor and aroma then I'll be able to put Magnum in the bittering only list for future brews.

My only other options would be Cascade, Crystal, Sterling, Columbus or Vanguard. I thought about Cascade, but I don't want to make 5 gallons of carbonated grapefruit.
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When you are talking about very dry IPAs are you thinking of West Coast IPAs like Green Flash and Stone, or do you have something else in mind?
I haven't had many west coast IPA's, but I've had my fair share of east coasters. I like my IPA's to be the exact opposite of DFH 90. Very little malt sweetness up front, big bitterness and a clean, dry finish almost like a Light American Lager.


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