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Old 02-17-2009, 08:36 PM   #1
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I have a huge supply of this stuff and have used it on two kegs to date, but I am having problems with foaming issues. Is this stuff not good for beer lines? What type of beer line would you recommend if I was picking it up at my LHBS or Lowes?

The current line I am using is 1/4" braided and rated for 250psi. The lines are currently 8ft long. The braided line is typically used for fountain systems and is foodgrade. Any suggestions are appreciated.

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Here's a picture of the type of line I am currently using.

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Old 02-17-2009, 08:39 PM   #2
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For running under 10' long, you'll need 3/16" ID tubing. 1/4" ID doesn't provide enough resistance.
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For running under 10' long, you'll need 3/16" ID tubing. 1/4" ID doesn't provide enough resistance.
Can I just increase the line size by two then or is it best to go with the 3/16"?

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Old 02-17-2009, 08:47 PM   #4
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To balance with 1/4", it could take up to 25' per faucet. There's also a few threads going around about increasing pour resistance inside the keg, etc. I'm too lazy at the moment to find them and link.
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Beer line is a no-foam line. Braided is ok for going long distances but the last 8 feet should be the good stuff.
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Old 02-17-2009, 08:47 PM   #6
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You'd need closer to 15 feet of 1/4", depending on your carbonation level and height of the tap from the keg.

Check out this site on line balancing:

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You'd need closer to 15 feet of 1/4", depending on your carbonation level and height of the tap from the keg.

Check out this site on line balancing:

Draft system line balancing
Thanks for the link. Great info and I will use it tomorrow to correct my problems.

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Old 02-17-2009, 09:18 PM   #8
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I can't see why it wouldn't work unless its normally used for premix pop lines. I'm guessing you just need longer lines.

Has anyone actually compared the no-foaming lines to regular lines? I thought I heard someone say they were just thicker. I really can't see braided lines flexing at all with serving pressure.

 
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My LHBS stocks beer line (Black 3/16") and I will pick up 10ft of it tomorrow to see if changing the ID makes a significant difference. If it does, I can head on back and get the more to replace the second line.

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Old 02-18-2009, 01:00 PM   #10
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1/4" has little to no resistance compared to 3/16" You will like the 3/16". I would prefer clear over black.
The 1/4" line you have is probably for soda.

 
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