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Old 02-15-2009, 09:30 PM   #11
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They're stress fractures. I have them on a couple of my 5 gallon carboys. I think its the quality of the glass as none of my 6.5 gallon carboys don't have them and I think its because they're better made. To be careful you should avoid handling them by the neck. I still use them though without problems and I always use a carboy hauler.

 
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Old 02-15-2009, 10:00 PM   #12
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I have seen two threads about glass carboy issues in the last week. These IMO are freak occurences that could be due to many reasons, stress on the carboy, being to hard on it (not sure what this means ha), and freak occurences.

The main thing I wanted to comment about was I see these threads and then some people respond with "I'm switching to Better Bottles".."I am nervous now"...

Come on people...thats like reading a thread where someone got an infected batch and you grow paranoid over your brew or quit altogether.

Glass is perfectly safe to brew in and it has been used for decades upon decades. I use both and have had no issues whatsoever. I am actually just now cooling my wort on my batch and have the glass carboy sanitising now.

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Old 02-15-2009, 10:22 PM   #13
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I have two carboys that have cracks like that. I've used them fine with no problems. As long as you don't pick em up by the neck they'll be fine.
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Old 02-15-2009, 10:43 PM   #14
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Its all good saying they're fine to use until I have one shatter possibly sending me to the ER and causing havoc in my house, 5 gallons of beer on a floor and floor molding is no small deal. I don't consider myself paranoid but I also like to feel I have good common sense. Common sense tells me if a 5 gallon all glass vessel has stress fractures in possibly the weakest area then its not a good idea to fill it fully and continue like nothing is wrong.

 
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Old 02-15-2009, 10:57 PM   #15
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Its all good saying they're fine to use until I have one shatter possibly sending me to the ER and causing havoc in my house, 5 gallons of beer on a floor and floor molding is no small deal. I don't consider myself paranoid but I also like to feel I have good common sense. Common sense tells me if a 5 gallon all glass vessel has stress fractures in possibly the weakest area then its not a good idea to fill it fully and continue like nothing is wrong.
I like your logic. This is probably turning into another one of those glass vs. plastic threads, so if you use glass with no issues, continue to do so. The only reason I haven't had issues with glass is because I use plastic. If I had glass, I know it would be a matter of time before I broke one.
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Old 02-15-2009, 11:33 PM   #16
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I've come over to the Better Bottle side because it's not just one or two threads about this; it's probably thirty or forty threads over the past couple years where someone had a carboy shatter, sometimes because they weren't careful (accidents DO happen) or sometimes without any apparent cause (like might be the case here). From all the firsthand accounts I've read, this really ISN'T a freak thing, it does happen, not to everybody but it could happen to anybody. It's just not worth it, especially since Better Bottles are now cheaper than glass carboys.
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Old 02-15-2009, 11:53 PM   #17
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I don't usually carry them around the house while they are full, they get filled from my plastic primary, i then lift them on the table from the floor one hand holding the bottom and the other one grabbing the neck, (only time i manipulate them filled with liquid), so to me, it feels like I'd be like the guy getting struck by a lightning, it can still happen, but what are the odds?

I'll just inspect them more carefully for cracks or anything from now on.
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Old 02-16-2009, 03:20 PM   #18
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Hell with it, it was running trough my head last night so i have made a little setup for glass carboy with a plastic milk crate with foam all around, so picking it up from the floor shouldn't be so potentially dangerous using it.
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Old 02-16-2009, 03:26 PM   #19
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I've come over to the Better Bottle side because it's not just one or two threads about this; it's probably thirty or forty threads over the past couple years where someone had a carboy shatter, sometimes because they weren't careful (accidents DO happen) or sometimes without any apparent cause (like might be the case here). From all the firsthand accounts I've read, this really ISN'T a freak thing, it does happen, not to everybody but it could happen to anybody. It's just not worth it, especially since Better Bottles are now cheaper than glass carboys.
I agree totally.....I think the issue is two fold...glass gets brittle with age, so older ones may fail over time...and newer ones, especially made in the last couple years are more than likely made by companies who don't give a flying fuq if their products last or not, and will cut corners every step of the way to make a buck....

Now adays, especially with such a viable replacement, it just doesn't seem worth the risk anymore...especially since the price has spiked.
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Old 02-16-2009, 03:26 PM   #20
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Looks like a quality control issue.

Both of my 6.5 carboys came from the FIL when he worked at Bristol Myers.

 
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