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Old 02-17-2009, 05:23 PM   #11
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I've always let it sit but would prefer to not... anyone else want to chime on this one? Perhaps it should be a thread?

Discuss if you like, but I've tried both ways MANY times. The sitting makes no difference. Why should it?


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Old 02-17-2009, 10:55 PM   #12
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Discuss if you like, but I've tried both ways MANY times. The sitting makes no difference. Why should it?
Ever tried vorlaufing while stirring?
Assuming you have never done this, then you seem to be admitting that a rest is required (although it could be a very short one).

I think the answer really lies in how long and hard you stir. A relatively quick stir followed by a short rest will be nearly as effective as a longer stir, and it's probably affected by mash thickness as well.

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I stir in the sparge water for maybe a minute (2 tops), vorlauf for a minute or 2 (usually about 1 qt.), then run off.
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I agree that it make sense that you would not need to sit. Since we are just trying to rinse the grains, stirring should accomplish everything you need. I think I'm going to try this next time I brew.


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Ever tried vorlaufing while stirring?
Assuming you have never done this, then you seem to be admitting that a rest is required (although it could be a very short one).
The vorlaufing is to set the grain bed and make a nice filter. Obviously, that can't occur while stirring.
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The vorlaufing is to set the grain bed and make a nice filter. Obviously, that can't occur while stirring.
I'm aware of that. Hence the

My point was that a very short stir, followed by a rest is similar to a longer stir without a rest. For somebody to state that a rest is never necessary because they have never done it is not taking all the factors into consideration.
Consider this analogy.
Make 3 cups coffee.
In cup 1, add 1 tsp sugar, stir for 10 seconds and taste. Most (if not all) of the sugar will be dissolved
In cup 2, add 1 tsp sugar, stir for 1 second, wait for 15 seconds, and taste. Most of the sugar will be dissolved.
In cup 3, add 1 tsp sugar, stir for 1 second and then pour it through a filter. You will find that much of the sugar is undissolved.
This shows that (under certain circumstances) a rest is necessary.

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