Any Plumbers out there? - Home Brew Forums
Register Now For Free!

Home Brew Forums > Home Brewing Community > General Chit Chat > Any Plumbers out there?

Reply
 
Thread Tools
Old 02-11-2009, 05:06 PM   #1
Bopper
 
Bopper's Avatar
Recipes 
 
Feb 2006
Posts: 1,999
Liked 5 Times on 5 Posts



Any plumbers out there willing to help me with a problem with a closet flange? Here's the issue:

I'm remodeling my bathroom and when I removed my old toilet I noticed 2 issues: (1) the closet flange is cracked and (2) the flange is not attached to the subfloor. The existing flange is PVC as is the sewer pipe. It is on a concrete slab foundation.

It appears that one of the previous owners had replaced the original closet flange but in order to get access to cut the sewer pipe, the concrete subfloor was chipped away leaving no concrete left to screw tapcons into. Thus, the closet flange and, therefore, the toilet is only supported by the sewer pipe - not a good situation.

Ordinarially, in order to fix the cracked flange, I'd use either a spanner flange or other flange repair kit (super ring, etc.) but without the concrete I have nothing to screw tapcons into. My main concern is that the existing closet flange is not attached to the subfloor in any way - it is resting on a bit of concrete leftover after the subfloor was chipped away.

Anyone have any suggestions of how to fix this?
Any help would be greatly appreciated!

Thanks!

 
Reply With Quote
Old 02-11-2009, 05:20 PM   #2
Skins_Brew
 
Skins_Brew's Avatar
Recipes 
 
Dec 2007
Silver Spring, MD.
Posts: 1,203
Liked 5 Times on 5 Posts


A pic would help. But, if I am reading you right, why now mix up some concrete and repair the chipped up concrete?
__________________
Braves on the Warpath!
Fight for old D.C.!

I Support My LHBS!! (Maryland HB)

 
Reply With Quote
Old 02-11-2009, 05:24 PM   #3
Bopper
 
Bopper's Avatar
Recipes 
 
Feb 2006
Posts: 1,999
Liked 5 Times on 5 Posts


Quote:
Originally Posted by Skins_Brew View Post
A pic would help. But, if I am reading you right, why now mix up some concrete and repair the chipped up concrete?
I think that is probably the solution, the problem is, I'm unsure how deep the hole is and I didn't know if I could cause any issues by pouring quickset concrete down there. I'm in a condo and didn't want to take any chances that I screw up mine or my neighbors plumbing somehow. Is it OK for PVC to be encased in concrete?


 
Reply With Quote
Old 02-11-2009, 05:31 PM   #4
Bobby_M
Vendor and Brewer
HBT_SPONSOR.png
 
Bobby_M's Avatar
Recipes 
 
Aug 2006
Whitehouse Station, NJ
Posts: 23,339
Liked 1767 Times on 1124 Posts


+1 to filling it back in with concrete. Grab some of the quick setting stuff and pack it in. The rest of the PVC is already encased in concrete so it's certainly not a problem.
__________________
Welcome to BrewHardware.com. I love you.
New Stirplates are IN!
Chugger Pumps, Pump Kits, Camlocks, Sightglasses, Clear USA made Silicone Tubing, RIMS, Electric Install Parts, etc.

 
Reply With Quote
Old 02-11-2009, 05:37 PM   #5
Bopper
 
Bopper's Avatar
Recipes 
 
Feb 2006
Posts: 1,999
Liked 5 Times on 5 Posts


Thanks to both of you for your help. I think what I'll do is remove the existing flange, pour quickset around the existing pipe, then install a new flange.

 
Reply With Quote
Old 02-11-2009, 07:19 PM   #6
billy_awesome
Recipes 
 
Dec 2008
London Ontario
Posts: 89

It's probably ABS plastic, its black?

If it's white or gray, it would probably be PVC.

As what has already been stated, use some cement and fill it in!

Make sure you get a new gasket too, don't use the wax ring they have started to ban use of them in different regions (currently illegal to install in a commercial building in Ontario Canada, soon to be banned in residential use). You can grab a synthetic gasket from your local hardware store for a few bux.

best of luck
__________________
Beer prices in Ontario Canada
24 Bottles for $28.89..........That's the DISCOUNT brand!

 
Reply With Quote
Old 02-11-2009, 08:34 PM   #7
Penguin
Recipes 
 
Jun 2008
odessa, tx
Posts: 208

time to get a japanese toilet lol

 
Reply With Quote
Old 02-11-2009, 09:41 PM   #8
Bopper
 
Bopper's Avatar
Recipes 
 
Feb 2006
Posts: 1,999
Liked 5 Times on 5 Posts


Quote:
Originally Posted by billy_awesome View Post
It's probably ABS plastic, its black?

If it's white or gray, it would probably be PVC.

As what has already been stated, use some cement and fill it in!

Make sure you get a new gasket too, don't use the wax ring they have started to ban use of them in different regions (currently illegal to install in a commercial building in Ontario Canada, soon to be banned in residential use). You can grab a synthetic gasket from your local hardware store for a few bux.

best of luck
Thanks for your input. - It is white PVC. Wax rings are still code here in Massachusetts. Out of curiosity, do you know why they are banning them for residential usage in parts of Canada?

 
Reply With Quote
Old 02-11-2009, 09:42 PM   #9
Bopper
 
Bopper's Avatar
Recipes 
 
Feb 2006
Posts: 1,999
Liked 5 Times on 5 Posts


Quote:
Originally Posted by Penguin View Post
time to get a japanese toilet lol

Now that's a good unit right there

 
Reply With Quote
Old 02-11-2009, 10:01 PM   #10
slimer
 
slimer's Avatar
Recipes 
 
Oct 2007
Westmont, IL
Posts: 688
Liked 3 Times on 3 Posts


Quote:
Originally Posted by Bopper359 View Post
Now that's a good unit right there
Adds new meaning to pop a squat...

 
Reply With Quote
Reply
Thread Tools


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Any plumbers??? dataz722 General Chit Chat 2 08-02-2009 06:42 PM
calling all plumbers... Ceedubya General Chit Chat 8 04-14-2009 09:50 AM
Any plumbers on this forum? Brew-ta-sauraus General Beer Discussion 23 04-01-2009 11:17 PM
Help from NG brewers/plumbers JAKlaassen Equipment/Sanitation 1 06-18-2008 08:36 AM
any plumbers in the house? the_bird General Chit Chat 11 03-10-2007 06:24 AM


Forum Jump