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Old 02-06-2009, 03:32 PM   #1
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Hi,

I live in Boston, and my garden gets way more shade than sunlight so I'm wondering which hops would be best for me to grow (or which varieties I should definitely not attempt to grow).

I'm mainly interested in cascade, chinook, fuggle, target, &/or willamette, but would adapt my brewing to what would grow best.

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Old 02-06-2009, 03:46 PM   #2
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Cascade's pretty hardy, they grow well for me out in western MA with some sun (I don't have full sun). They need as much as you can give them, though.
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Old 02-06-2009, 03:50 PM   #3
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One thing I've learned from talking to guys growing hops around Mass is to definitely go with the hardy strains. Also, I'd concentrate on growing more flavor/aroma hops than bittering hops since you won't be able to quantify the AA% for bittering purposes.
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Old 02-06-2009, 07:51 PM   #4
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Thanks for the tips...If anyone else has any recommendations, please let me know.

 
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Old 02-07-2009, 07:38 AM   #5
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Vendors say Sunbeam Golden, a Saaz hybrid, does well in semi-shade. Ordered three rhizomes to put here and there as ornamentals. Anyone else grow them?

 
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Old 02-07-2009, 03:06 PM   #6
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I've tried growing Sunbeam, but it's been getting too much sun. Gets about 10 feet tall & turns brown. Need to replant it under the ash tree.

Cascade & Fuggle will grow just about anywhere.
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Old 02-07-2009, 10:13 PM   #7
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Thanks David....planned on trying one Sunbeam in more sun but won't now. Have an estimate of how much sun cooked yours? I'm thinking 4 to 6 hours of direct sun...wondering if I should go with the lower number...or less. Did you get any cones? I don't see recipes using Sunbeam. Imagine it can be substituted for Saaz?

 
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Old 02-08-2009, 03:40 PM   #8
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My slope is wide open all day, so 16 hours worst case. When I setup the hop garden that wasn't the case, but then the area west of my property got clear-cut, so no more afternoon shade.

Sunbeam is very Saaz-like. If it wasn't so sun-sensitive, it would be grown commercially.
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Sunbeam is suppose to be get sun for 4-6 hours a day. 16 hours would definitely kill it. I would reccomend Sunbeam, Cascade, Chinook, and something like columbus. I sell all of these in my shop for 5.00 a piece with free shipping(minimum order is 2)

 
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Hi,

I live in Boston, and my garden gets way more shade than sunlight so I'm wondering which hops would be best for me to grow (or which varieties I should definitely not attempt to grow).

I'm mainly interested in cascade, chinook, fuggle, target, &/or willamette, but would adapt my brewing to what would grow best.

Thanks!
You know I was out and about in J.P. today.... If you go down and walk around Union Ave, Ophir St, Greenley Place, and Brookside you'll see a wild hop infestation. It might not even hurt to walk down Williams, Kenton, and Gartland. I've noticed them in that whole area.... While you're down there go over to Doyle's and have a Samuel Smith.


There were no cones on them only real small flowers and seed pods. They are definitely related to hops and it might be worth grabbing some to see if they cross-pollinate.

 
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