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Old 02-05-2009, 06:02 AM   #1
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Default I incorrectly mixed grains - should I try to separate?

The stout recipe I am using calls from steeping some malt and barley for 30 minutes, then removing the grains and adding DME, honey and oats for a 60-min boil. Well, when I got the ingredients today, I just brought the list and not the actual schedule so all the grains AND the oats were crushed together and are mixed in one big plastic bag. Do you think I should try to sift the grains through some sort of strainer to remove the oats or just leave them in for the steeping and add more during the boil? I think I could do this since the oats aren't as crushed as the grains. I'm concerned that if I leave the oats in during the steeping, they could soak up some of what should be staying behind in the water. Any thoughts?


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Old 02-05-2009, 06:19 AM   #2
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I have never heard of boiling oats with the wort so don't worry. Why don't you post the recipe and instructions so we can give you some additional help.


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Old 02-05-2009, 06:30 AM   #3
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Where did you get this recipe? It sounds a little bogus to me: I'm not sure why you'd want to boil the oats.

Can you post the recipe here?
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Where did you get this recipe? It sounds a little bogus to me: I'm not sure why you'd want to boil the oats.
Unless the oats were instant, flaked, or malted, they need to be cereal mashed (cooked).
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Ed's Honey Oatmeal Stout (from The Homebrewer's Recipe Guide)

OG 1.051

3# amber DME
3# dark DME
2# buckwheat honey
1# crystal malt (60L)
0.5# chocolate malt
0.75# roasted barley
0.25# black patent malt
1# rolled oats
1.5 oz Cascade for bittering
1 oz Liberty for aroma
1 pack Irish Ale yeast
1.25 cups DME for priming

I will be doing a 3 gallon boil.

Steep crystal malt, chocolate malt, black patent malt and barley at 155 deg. for 30 min.

Discard grains. Add DME, honey, oats and Cascade at 60 min.

Add Liberty at flame-out and steep for 15 min.

Cool, pitch and ferment for 10-14 days.

Bottle using DME and age 2-3 weeks.
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Unless the oats were instant, flaked, or malted, they need to be cereal mashed (cooked).
Yes but even then wouldn't you add them to the mash. At least it is not to common.

If you got flaked oats from the LBS then they should be fine to steep.
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If you got flaked oats from the LBS then they should be fine to steep.
Yes, they were flaked oats.


Do you think I should add any more oats during the boil or should I just leave the oats that are already mixed in with the other grains for steeping and not add any more?
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If you got flaked oats from the LBS then they should be fine to steep.
I respectfully disagree. Oats need to be mashed in addition to being gelatinized. The recipe is lacking enzymatic malts to convert the starch in the oats.
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Um, guys, he's not mashing anything. He's doing an extract/steeping grains recipe.

Hezegenius, steep them with everything else. It's the closest thing to a mash that you are doing with this recipe.
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He's doing an extract/steeping grains recipe.
...that calls for a grain that must be mashed. Yeah, it will probably be "ok" because it is a jet black beer, but I don't want to give the impression that unconverted starch is acceptable. Except in wit.

The recipe is at fault, not the OP.


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