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Old 01-29-2009, 07:02 PM   #21
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Never said the boiler ion a coffee maker had lead but, it does still concentrate in the SAME CONTEXT as your water tank citation. But in a much smaller volume. Of course pre-filtration helps and that can be done with the hot tanks too.

And the FEMA point stresses that if the level were a health concern they would not advocate using it, now would they?

To further my point, if the EPA were THAT concerned about lead levels in the hot side they would regulate that all the hot side systems be label "Non Potable". Dude.


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And just a side note while it may save some time to use hot water instead but how does it save money? Unless the energy is free to heat your domestic water you are still heating up X amount of cold water whether its in the house or on the burner.
I'm guessing the electricity is cheaper and more convenient.


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Old 01-29-2009, 07:07 PM   #23
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And just a side note while it may save some time to use hot water instead but how does it save money? Unless the energy is free to heat your domestic water you are still heating up X amount of cold water whether its in the house or on the burner.
I don't think anybody said it saves money - someone said it saves propane.
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I don't think anybody said it saves money - someone said it saves propane.
And time watching the water boil. Give you an excuse to get another beer though...
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Never said the boiler ion a coffee maker had lead but, it does still concentrate in the SAME CONTEXT as your water tank citation. But in a much smaller volume. Of course pre-filtration helps and that can be done with the hot tanks too.
The water going in is cold less chance of lead leaching into it. And the hot water never touches anything containing lead unless it a super old unit

And the FEMA point stresses that if the level were a health concern they would not advocate using it, now would they?
Again the hot water never comes into contact with lead they advise you to open the drain on the tank .Even if there were a small amount in 40 gallons it wouldn't kill you but dehydration will

To further my point, if the EPA were THAT concerned about lead levels in the hot side they would regulate that all the hot side systems be label "Non Potable". Dude.
But the fact is they recommend not to use hot water for cooking and or drinking. Why take the risk?

I guess we should just agree to disagree .
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But the fact is they recommend not to use hot water for cooking and or drinking. Why take the risk?

I guess we should just agree to disagree .
I prefer watching the water boil!
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The biggest argument I have against using hot water is you can't use a carbon filter with hot water.

My hot water occasionally gives me a sulfur or iron smell. I spoke to a water softener company about it because I am on a well with a softener. He said that build up of sediment and other minerals in the hot water will occasionally give a sulfur, rotten egg or metal smell and that I can purge them by doing as a previous poster said. Drain tank and refill a few times to flush sediment out.

Here is a little history on my brewing with my well water.

1. Hot water from the water softener = fast heat up times. 125 to 152 only takes a few minutes. Beer was OK
2. Cold water from softener, stranded filter. Beer got better
3. Cold water, bypass softener, carbon filter, 5.2 ph salts. Beer is best I have made.

I use electric heat exchangers to heat both my mash and my HLT water. Now I have learned to set-up 2 hours early and just let them run, or if I am in a pinch, I preheat in my boil kettle, drain into a bucket then pour into the tuns and let everything stabilize.

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But the fact is they recommend not to use hot water for cooking and or drinking. Why take the risk?

I guess we should just agree to disagree .
Fair enough. I just don;t agree with the logic regardless of the EPA statement. Out of curiosity, I sent an email question to NSF International. I will post the non-edited response regardless of outcome.
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I don't think anybody said it saves money - someone said it saves propane.

Not if you use propane for your domestic hot water
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My hot water occasionally gives me a sulfur or iron smell. I spoke to a water softener company about it because I am on a well with a softener. He said that build up of sediment and other minerals in the hot water will occasionally give a sulfur, rotten egg or metal smell and that I can purge them by doing as a previous poster said. Drain tank and refill a few times to flush sediment out.Linc
I may also suggest you find out how to inspect your Anode. If it is significantly coated or corroded, it too will increase the potential for sulfuric odors.


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