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Old 01-27-2009, 10:11 PM   #1
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I'm new to beer brewing.

Infact, I've only made ginger beer so far, very nice it is too. However, as I mentioned in my introduction, I live in a third world country that grows barley and uses it to make beer for domestic sales and sells the rest internationally. Non of it ends up in the shops in any raw form, be it pearl barley, malt drinks or flour let alone malt extract for brewing, and I won't consider buying malt online considering the prohibitive cost of shipping a pound of malt, it would be cheaper to buy a 10year old bottle of whiskey.

I want to make beer, but I want to use things that I can get hold of readily. I can buy 500kg of malt if I want, but that exceeds my needs and my wallet.

Can anyone throw a beer or ale recipe my way that makes use of non malt produce.

I heard the Japanese are making beer from soybeans. Kirin, I would love to have a go at that, but have no idea how to process the soybean.

Any suggestion are more than welcome before this thread drifts into obscurity.



 
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Old 01-27-2009, 10:22 PM   #2
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You could look at malting your own barley. If your country does grow a lot then there would probably be sufficient seed around there and probably some local know-how on growing. Do you have any land? There are books out there which detail ways to harvest and produce your own barley.

It sounds like that would be the cheapest way in your situation. That is given you have access to land and a green thumb.


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Old 01-27-2009, 10:24 PM   #3
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Old 01-27-2009, 10:26 PM   #4
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I wonder how much barley a typical 1/4 acre home garden would produce?
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Old 01-27-2009, 10:58 PM   #5
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Old 01-27-2009, 11:07 PM   #6
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Thanks Orfy, I am indeed in Uruguay, but I am originally from Cheshire in England too.

Yes growing Barley is definitely on the list. My wife and I are starting to think about growing more of our own produce anyway and I also know a farmer who knows a producer of barley it just occurred to me.

I live 10 minutes from the beach, so we don't have the best earth to grow things in but we are already composting and have other plans.

My first 3 batches of beer experiments did non too well. Using oats and white sugar. They came out with a very tarty citrusy overbearing flavour. This I think was the white sugar. It encourages the production of VitC. It was drinkable, but not to my taste.

I've started another batch and this time I added ginger as a gruit to counter this and made it weaker also. I just bottled it without tasting, but it smelled pleasant enough. I toasted some already dark sugar. I'm going to give it three weeks and see how it goes.

I feel a bit medieval with all this experimenting, but I love cooking so it's a bit like that.

 
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Old 01-27-2009, 11:09 PM   #7
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I wonder how much barley a typical 1/4 acre home garden would produce?
We have a moderate climate though not temperate, too hot for that, but I think Barley has about a 6 to eight week turnover which isn't that much. I think I can grow it.

 
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Old 01-27-2009, 11:14 PM   #8
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I don't know of any brewers on here that have grown their own barley. This would be an awesome project!
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Old 01-27-2009, 11:17 PM   #9
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It can't be that hard, although we can't grow grass, hmmm I wonder. Well I love this type of challenge and I can't see anything else for it.

I have made tentative contact with some homebrewers here through facebook, but my Spanish isn't good enough yet.

 
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Old 01-28-2009, 01:48 AM   #10
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Just discovered that barely is rather hardy and suited to challenging conditions. Just need to obtain seed.

Will keep you posted.



 
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