May I ask, is there something, a grain, I can use so I don't have to add Sucrose or dextrose to this recipe, cause I would like not to .
Any suggestions and Ty for this post cheers
Why? If a recipe calls for adding sugar, and you're trying to make that recipe, then changing it, like to add pilsner malt like was suggested,
will not give you the same beer.
You'll have a beer with more body than the original if you replace the sugar with grain.
Contrary to what you might mis-understand, adding sugar to a recipe is not bad,
adding too much sugar, like over 30% of the grainbill, is what's bad.
We need to stop this repeating this oversimplification.
That's actually another one of those brewer's myths that new brewer's tend to repeat over and over like canon, without full understanding what they're talking about.
Too much sugar, in a recipe can give off off flavors, or make a beer cidery, but we're talking about someone who wants to bump up the alcohol on his 6 pounds of extract beer by adding another 6 pounds of table sugar to it.
That whole thing about not adding sugar or else you make "cidery" beer is one of those little "chestnuts" that noobs repeat without thinking deeper about it. When we talk about it being a bad thing, is when the ration of sugar to malt quite high, like frat boys trying to bump up their coopers can...yeah that's a bad thing...but we're not talking about that here, we're talking about an acceptable brewing process for many styles of beer...
I mean do you like Belgian beers? Are they "cidery?" Are they crappy tasting because of the simple sugars that are added? If you like them, that's how they achieved the beer you like.
Belgian beers are a style that are supposed to have simple sugars in it. It raises the abv, but it also cuts down on some of the body, promotes the formation of certain flavors and helps dry the beer out.
Adding sugars traditionally are a way of upping the ABV without boosting the body. They also can thin out a heavier bodied beer. And dry it out.
If you are trying to make a high gravity beer if you used all grain you'd have a thick and heavy beer.
The easiest comparison to make is the difference between a Barleywine and a Belgian Dark Strong Ale. They are pretty close in color, ibus and gravity, but since the Belgian beer replaces some of the grain with sugars it's a thinner, more refreshing finish....where the barleywine is almost like a liqueur.
A pound or two isn't going to affect the beer in a negative way, especially if the recipe calls for. Even a cooper's which people want to deride, or some others suggest replacing with malt extract, is really meant to have exactly the amount of sugar the recipe might call for. But if you willy nilly add a couple more pounds to it, that's another story.
It's about balance in a recipe, the correct amount of sugar in a recipe is fine, and often serves an important purpose.
If you want a beer that's going to match in body to these beers, then you need an adjucnt like sugar to get the alcohol level similar without making the body heavier. Keeping in quaffable.
Sugar is not the enemy.....
cheers
