Yellow snow clone...suggestions?

One of the guys at work is paying me to develop a clone of Yellow Snow. It's a seasonal and he's really jonesing. I told him that I couldn't get it 100% (they use Dare and Risk malts... and I'm not that good yet...lol), but I would try.
Here's the info from their site:
Tasting Notes:
Pale golden in color with a hoppy fruity aroma. Big hop flavor up front complemented by medium body and hoppiness mid-pallet. Finishes with a characteristic lingering bitterness.

8 Ingredients:
Cara Foam, Melanoidin & Rogue Micro Barley Farm Dare™ & Risk™ Malts; Amarillo & Rogue Micro Hopyard Revolution Hops, Free Range Coastal Water & Pacman Yeast.

Specs:
15º PLATO
70 IBU
76 AA
14º Lovibond

Here's my starting recipe:

Yellow Snow Clone
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Brewer:
Style: American IPA
Batch: 5.00 galPartial Mash

Characteristics
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Recipe Gravity: 1.068 OG
Recipe Bitterness: 74 IBU
Recipe Color: 11° SRM
Estimated FG: 1.017
Alcohol by Volume: 6.5%
Alcohol by Weight: 5.1%

Ingredients
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Carafoam 0.50 lb, Grain, Mashed
Light LME 7.00 lb, Extract, Extract
Melanoidin 0.50 lb, Grain, Mashed
Two-row (US) 2.00 lb, Grain, Mashed

Amarillo 1.00 oz, Pellet, 60 minutes
Amarillo 1.00 oz, Pellet, 30 minutes
Amarillo 1.00 oz, Pellet, 10 minutes
Amarillo 2.00 oz, Pellet, 0 minutes
Revolution 0.50 oz, Pellet, 60 minutes
Revolution 0.50 oz, Pellet, 10 minutes
Revolution 0.50 oz, Pellet, 30 minutes

Northwest Ale yeast 1.00 unit, Yeast, Recultured Pacman Yeast

Notes
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Recipe Notes:
Mash at 152°. Ferment at 60°.

I haven't had this beer in a while but I don't remember it being a 14 (that's why its only 11.) And the alcohol and IBU's are slightly high. Close enough to start with? Anyone have any suggestions that might help me out of the gate?

JSSTR8 -- did you end up brewing this recipe? If so, how did it turn out?? I'm looking for a good 5g AG Rogue Yellow Snow recipe to brew this up coming season.

If anyone else has a Rogue Yellow Snow Recipe please reply it would much appreciated.

THX

Did it a few times. We thought that the last one was real close. I found out that my brews come out two to three points darker then my software predicts, which is the reason for this one being low. I was also out of Revolution hops so I subbed with Tettenang.

Yellow snow clone v3

Style: American IPA
Type: All Grain Calories: 182
Rating: 0.0 Boil Size: 3.75 Gal
IBU's: 84.79 Batch Size: 3.00 Gal
Color: 7.7 SRM Boil Time: 60 minutes
Preboil OG: 1.052
Estimated Actual
Brew Date: - 02/04/2012
OG: 1.056 1.064
FG: 1.012 1.012
ABV: 5.76 % 6.81 %
Efficiency: 68 % 78 %
Serve Date: 03/17/2012 / /

Fermentation Steps
Name Days / Temp Estimated Actual
Primary 7 days @ 60.0°F 02/04/2012 02/04/2012
Secondary 7 days @ 72.0°F 02/11/2012 -
Bottle/Keg 14 days @ 72.0°F 02/18/2012 -
Condition 14 days @ 40.0°F 03/03/2012 -

Grains & Adjuncts
Amount Percentage Name Time Gravity
0.60 lbs 7.69 % Carafoam 60 mins 1.033
0.60 lbs 7.69 % Melanoiden Malt 60 mins 1.037
6.60 lbs 84.62 % Briess 2-Row Brewers Malt 60 mins 1.037

Hops
Amount IBU's Name Time AA %
0.30 ozs 15.87 Amarillo Gold First Wort 8.50
0.30 ozs 7.47 Tettnang First Wort 4.00
0.60 ozs 28.86 Amarillo Gold 60 mins 8.50
0.30 ozs 6.79 Tettnang 60 mins 4.00
0.30 ozs 8.74 Amarillo Gold 20 mins 8.50
0.30 ozs 4.11 Tettnang 20 mins 4.00
0.60 ozs 10.47 Amarillo Gold 10 mins 8.50
0.30 ozs 2.46 Tettnang 10 mins 4.00
1.20 ozs Amarillo Gold 14 days 8.50

Yeasts
Amount Name Laboratory / ID
1.00 pkg Pacman Wyeast Labs 1764

Add 9.75 qt ( 1.25 qt/lb ) water @ 168.3°F
Sparge
Sparge 9.53 qt of 170.0°F water over 30 mins

Carbonation
(none)

Notes

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Hey thanks -- I think I'll try it and let you know how it goes. Thanks again

Sorry that was for a scaled batch that I sent to a friend. Here is the 5 gallon version:

Yellow snow clone v3

Style: American IPA OG: 1.061
Type: All Grain FG: 1.012
Rating: 0.0 ABV: 6.42 %
Calories: 198 IBU's: 80.83
Efficiency: 70 % Boil Size: 5.83 Gal
Color: 7.4 SRM Batch Size: 5.00 Gal
Preboil OG: 1.057 Boil Time: 60 minutes

Fermentation Steps
Name Days / Temp
Primary 7 days @ 60.0°F
Secondary 7 days @ 72.0°F
Bottle/Keg 14 days @ 72.0°F
Condition 14 days @ 40.0°F

Grains & Adjuncts
Amount Percentage Name Time Gravity
1.00 lbs 7.69 % Carafoam 60 mins 1.033
1.00 lbs 7.69 % Weyermann Melanoidin 60 mins 1.037
11.00 lbs 84.62 % Briess 2-Row Brewers Malt 60 mins 1.037

Hops
Amount IBU's Name Time AA %
0.50 ozs 15.13 Amarillo Gold First Wort 8.50
0.50 ozs 7.12 Tettnang First Wort 4.00
1.00 ozs 27.51 Amarillo Gold 60 mins 8.50
0.50 ozs 6.47 Tettnang 60 mins 4.00
0.50 ozs 8.33 Amarillo Gold 20 mins 8.50
0.50 ozs 3.92 Tettnang 20 mins 4.00
1.00 ozs 9.98 Amarillo Gold 10 mins. 8.50
0.50 ozs 2.35 Tettnang 10 mins 4.00
2.00 ozs Amarillo Gold 14 days 8.50

Yeasts
Amount Name Laboratory / ID
1.0 pkg Pacman Wyeast Labs 1764

Perfect! thanks for sending the 5 gallon batch version.

Here is a side by side if my last batch. Mine was slightly more bitter and had alot more aroma (can't make an IPA without dry hops). Theirs has what I perceive as a hop sweetness that mine lacks. But it was very close.

Right on! That's what I'm looking to do (and your right about dry hops). :rockin: Thanks again for the recipe.

JSSTR8 said:

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Here is a side by side if my last batch. Mine was slightly more bitter and had alot more aroma (can't make an IPA without dry hops). Theirs has what I perceive as a hop sweetness that mine lacks. But it was very close.

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It is the glass that affects the flavor. Try it in a straight glass.

....... Also heard you drink it quicker in a curved glass.

The bottle has the ingredients. What does it say. I've not bought it for a long time, but it said 6 ingredients (versus the 8 noted previously):

2-row
Carafoam
Melanoiden
Amarillo
Water
PacMan yeast

The OP was copied from their site. But now it says:

7 Ingredients:
Cara Foam, Melanoiden & Great Western 2-Row Malts; Amarillo & Perle Hops, Free Range Coastal Water & Pacman Yeast.

Beer advocate still says:
8 Ingredients:
Cara Foam, Melanoiden & Rogue Micro Barley Farm Dare™ & Risk™ Malts; Amarillo & Rogue Micro Hopyard Revolution Hops, Free Range Coastal Water & Pacman Yeast.

Brewers will change their recipes sometimes depending on the availability of ingredients. They had been brewing this with their own barley and hops (minus the patented Amarillo). This may be what happened. I'll have to check a bottle next time I'm out. Or maybe they have an old version of their site up for some reason? Or maybe they just decided that they like the original recipe better?...

Alright I'm brewing this recipe now. Grains are steeping as I type this. Also, I'm using my new kettle from spikebrewing.com

Finished up a few hours ago. Now I wait for 6 to 8 weeks.

I ferment at 60°. Not sure if that was in the original discussion.

JSSTR8 said:

I ferment at 60°. Not sure if that was in the original discussion.

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It was in your recipe above. I brought my carboy down to the basement. The temp down is about 63 - 65. I hope it doesn't effect the fermentation to much.

That should be fine. I just read somewhere that Rogue ferments most of their beers at 60°. Pacman is a beast I have fermented it as low as 50° before.

I just when down to check on it and it bubbling away. Man I can't wait.

How did it turn out?

+1
Just had Yellow Snow for the first time on New Years and would like to find a partial mash recipe for this. It was similar to Sam Adams Whitewater IPA.

cank said:

It was similar to Sam Adams Whitewater IPA.

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Go wash your mouth out! No comparison! Both good beers, but not similar.

Calder said:

Go wash your mouth out! No comparison! Both good beers, but not similar.

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+1. Absolutely no comparison!

JSSTR8 said:

How did it turn out?

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This recipe turned out really good..... In fact I'm kegging another batch this weekend.

cank said:

+1
Just had Yellow Snow for the first time on New Years and would like to find a partial mash recipe for this. It was similar to Sam Adams Whitewater IPA.

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I believe that one pound of base grains is equal to 0.75 lbs LME or 0.60 lbs DME. So just take out the amount of base grains that you wish to sub and multiply by the appropriate number.

Irish13 said:

This recipe turned out really good..... In fact I'm kegging another batch this weekend.

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Glad you liked it. It's one if my favorite IPAs.