Let me know what you think.
Great rant Nargan! I hate Rogue! I always knew that in the past, but didn't know why, and you helped me to understand it
Alright, just popped one of my DFH 61 and even with very low expectations from your post, i have to say it is not terrible, but in no way good. It has almost no hop flavor or aroma at all for an IPA. It also has a very dry tannin flavor which I would assume comes from the wine. Even though it has that dry taste, it also have a sweet aroma like unfermented grape juice. I guess that is what happens when you dont dry out a red wine like it is supposed to be (I would think a Syrah would be below 1.000 when it is all said and done, but this surely isn't).
If I had to sum it up, it almost tastes like a homebrew that gets that bad cider off flavor that is not anticipated. I do not think they used the same hope schedule in DFH61 as they did in DFH60 since they taste NOTHING alike!!
Keep your other bottles and maybe they will age well?
Totally agree, hate Rogue as well. Not even a fan of Dead Guy. Wouldn't kick it out of bed, but that's only because it's a beer and beer is God. Also I was very drunk when I first had it but was not impressed enough to pay 5 dollars more for a sixer with all the other lovely beers out there for less money.
Rats...I really wanted you to love it. I really don't think I'll drink another. They don't even make a good one more beer at the end of the night beer.
You are totally right about that. What I usually do with the beers I am unsure of or want to try is buy a few and then when my brewing buddies come around we taste test them all in little 4 ounce glasses. That way you dont have to choke down terrible beers since there isn't much and you get to at least try stuff.
I have yet to have a good beer from Alesmith. Everything they make is way too sweet. Now I have only had a couple beers from Firestone Walker but both were fantastic.
I don't know... They tend to mostly get it "meh" IMO. The fact that the CEO is an ex-Nike exec and his son is an ex-Adidas exec probably explains why they're obsessed with marketing and not quality of the product. The first time I noticed it was when I visited their Portland brewpub and was wondering why they felt the need to make a beer based on a reality TV show about crab fishing (Cap'n Sig's Northwestern Ale). Then, the stories of their employee abuse, union busting, gross neglect of the brewery's sanitary conditions, etc came out, I pretty much just wrote them off. Why pay $2-5 more per 6-pack for something mediocre that also then helps support a company that openly shames and insults its workers and brags in its newsletters regarding how many people they've fired? And before people jump in saying that that type of info is just from an angry ex-employee, there are just far too many employees and ex-employees with corroborating stories for it to be made up. They've also been in the news for some of their antics.
And then the Voodoo beer happened. Collaborate to make a gimmick beer with a gimmicky, tourist-trap donut shop that you sell for $13 a bottle. Terrible reviews galore. So they made another gimmick beer with them: the peanut butter, chocolate, banana ale. Terrible reviews galore. The nail in the coffin was the Powell's Book Store collaboration. Yes, a book store beer. Since it's also such a huge tourist trap, surely this marketing gimmick will make lots of money for them, right? But how do you make a book store based beer? They brewed the beer with pages torn from Moby Dick in the kettle and called it White Whale. Will that make it better? No. Will that add to the quality in any way? No. It's another stupid marketing gimmick designed as a seriously cheap money grab and it's insulting. They even grab a bit of your money when they tell you they'll give you a free taster of their beer. Plus, they make Beard Beer. Nuff said.
There are too many very good breweries in this area for me to want to give my money to Rogue.
Shiner Hefe.
That was like no hefe I've ever drank. Smelled like dirty socks, and tasted...well, the taste is hard to define. Kind of like cheap ham that is past it's prime, minus the salt.
All in all, not a good beer. I gave most of the six pack away.
Was it expired?
Hefeweizen doesn't age well. All its flavor is yeast-derived and when the yeast goes down, well...
what alesmith beers?
I really like Speadway stout great mouth feel & very complex for not being barrel aged.
I was lucky enough to have this a while back
http://beeradvocate.com/beer/profile/396/84077
one of the top 5 stouts I've ever had
even just the normal speedway has a 98
http://beeradvocate.com/beer/profile/396/3833
So I would say you are in the minority
IPA, Wee Heavy, Horny Devil and Speedway Stout. I honestly don't remember much about the IPA but the other 3 were way too sweet. I actually liked the taste of Speedway Stout but couldn't drink more than a few oz. The other 2 were just awful.
Nomad said:You won't get disagreement from me. I think one common theme from this thread is most people want beer to taste like beer-- not like fruit, not like donuts, not like herbs, but like beer. Dragon's Milk, IMHO, may have started as a beer, but once it hit the barrel became something else.
I don't buy much craft beer.
The Rogue Dead Guy.
Bought a growler. Not good.
I don't buy much craft beer.
Boatswain IPA and DIPA from Trader Joes!
masskrug said:I saw these so reasonably priced and thought I would give them a try. Horrible. They taste like the floor of a frat house on Sunday, dry hopped with tumbleweeds.
dizzle said:Prima Pils by Victory. I always try to make it through a beer even if I don't like it, but this one I had to dump.
Interesting....prima pils is one of my favorite beers
As for my undesirable beer, Summer Shandy. Don't call it beer, because it certainly isn't.
gometz said:I was looking at it in the store yesterday wondering if that would be any good at all. It's supposed to be like a Bavarian Radler, but I just knew that it wouldn't be right. Looks like most people hated it on ratebeer.
The Boatswain beers are damn gross. Definitely good candidates for this thread.
Hey stick to your opinion if that's how you feel. The new hollands dragon's milk was rated in the high 90s and tasted like someone put a half ounce of whiskey in the beer. No longer had a beer taste to me just a weird whiskey taste (I love scotch just not with beer).
jjadamsfb said:Oh my god, El Cedo by Jester King - 8.0% ABV farmhouse ale dry-hopped with Citra hops, aged with Spanish Cedar spirals and bottle conditioned with Brettanomyces yeast
Got in a trade and glad I tried it, but could not get it out of my mouth fast enough.
WesleyS said:Do you not like brett beers? I thought that El Cedro was pretty good and had a good funky brett character to it.
jjadamsfb said:It was actually the cedar that was way too much. I have not had a lot of bret beers so that taste is newer to me, but I thought I was drinking a plank.
jjadamsfb said:It was actually the cedar that was way too much. I have not had a lot of bret beers so that taste is newer to me, but I thought I was drinking a plank.
You are better off mixing your own beer and lemonade.
Oh my god, El Cedo by Jester King - 8.0% ABV farmhouse ale dry-hopped with Citra hops, aged with Spanish Cedar spirals and bottle conditioned with Brettanomyces yeast
Got in a trade and glad I tried it, but could not get it out of my mouth fast enough.
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