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Cheesefood

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Yeah, let's talk about good drugs. Who here likes the good herbals?

Of course, I'm talking about the legit kind of vitamins, herbs, and mineral nutrients suggested to aid in dozens of cures.

One of the perks of my job is that I get $600 per year in herbals for only the 2% tax. So I put in an order for $375 worth today. I've got fish oils, GI nutrients, Detox drugs, immunization aids, energy boosters, anti-oxidants, green tea, grape seed, etc. Just wondering what you guys take and what works.
 
Everyday I drink tea, plenty of water, eat a (mostly) balanced diet without a lot of sweets/processed garbage/fats, and a hearty dose of homebrew, and I feel great. Plenty of exercise can go a long way in making you feel great and be healthy, as well.

But I suppose that is all off-topic, lol. I've never really been into the herbals/supplements and I don't think I'm any worse off.

That and I can't afford it all in my college budget. :p
 
I got on this one stuff about 8 years ago, but it's a hefty commitment to get used to. When you first start, your body isn't quite adjusted to it, and you end up peeing about every 45 minutes, but after a day or two your body gets used to it. The results are amazing. More energy that lasts longer, and an overall better feeling of health. The stuff's called dihydrogen monoxide, and you can get it at any grocery store. I take about 4-5L per day.
 
mrkristofo said:
I got on this one stuff about 8 years ago, but it's a hefty commitment to get used to. When you first start, your body isn't quite adjusted to it, and you end up peeing about every 45 minutes, but after a day or two your body gets used to it. The results are amazing. More energy that lasts longer, and an overall better feeling of health. The stuff's called dihydrogen monoxide, and you can get it at any grocery store. I take about 4-5L per day.
http://herbinator.blogspot.com/2005/11/dihydrous-monoxide-killer.html
 
I prefer hydrogen hydroxide myself, but stay away from the imported stuff!

About the only odd thing I take is 25 mg of DHEA daily. The rest of the pills are meds.
 
mrkristofo said:
I got on this one stuff about 8 years ago, but it's a hefty commitment to get used to. When you first start, your body isn't quite adjusted to it, and you end up peeing about every 45 minutes, but after a day or two your body gets used to it. The results are amazing. More energy that lasts longer, and an overall better feeling of health. The stuff's called dihydrogen monoxide, and you can get it at any grocery store. I take about 4-5L per day.

Yer crazy man! That **** kills more people every year than, like, handguns and crack overdose combined!
:drunk:
 
both of my brothers are seriously into alternative medicine. Heres their website they just launched Monday. It needs work but gives you an idea of some of the things they sell.
Most of it is just for detoxifying your body. Doing that and your energy levels rise on their own

www.consciousdetox.com
 
My friggen dog is on a herbal regiment for allergies. It actually works but the 1st couple of weeks he had the sh!ts and was draggin arse out on the grass 1/2 the time until he got used to the meds.

Be careful out there cheese, you may need some depends :rockin:
 
I just do the goods that aren't processed, organic blueberries and yogurt everyday. Pomegranite juice and pecans. Best natural anti-carcenogins out there :) I like to get as many greens as possible too, spinach, broccoli, seaweed, spirullina... that stuff has everything you body needs to be healthy, fight disease and fight cancer.
 
I swear by 5 mg of crushed reindeer testicle. If gives me that little bit of extra energy! :drunk:
 
Anyone have a link to a list of all the herbal "alternative medicines" that have been proven by science to be useless? I read recently that anti-oxidants don't provide much benefit...not nearly as much as is touted. Echinacea is completely benign. Ginkgo Biloba doesn't help your memory whatsoever. Etc., etc.

I take multivitamins, amino acids (especial lysine), Piracetam, and fish oil caps. I also add ground up flax seed to a lot of things. Outside of that, I don't take many meds or anything...except the stash of valtrex that I keep around for my mouth-herpes...but that's not exactly "herbal" ;)
 
Evan! said:
Anyone have a link to a list of all the herbal "alternative medicines" that have been proven by science to be useless? I read recently that anti-oxidants don't provide much benefit...not nearly as much as is touted. Echinacea is completely benign. Ginkgo Biloba doesn't help your memory whatsoever. Etc., etc.

I take multivitamins, amino acids (especial lysine), Piracetam, and fish oil caps. I also add ground up flax seed to a lot of things. Outside of that, I don't take many meds or anything...except the stash of valtrex that I keep around for my mouth-herpes...but that's not exactly "herbal" ;)

Riiiiiight - mouth herpes, uh-huh... ;)
 
chillHayze said:
Riiiiiight - mouth herpes, uh-huh... ;)

If I had the genital version, I'd tell ya. My whole family always had cold sores, but not me. Until like 3 years ago, I'd never had one...ever. Then one day I get a raging, massive piece of evil on my lip. Since then, I've had a few bad outbreaks, so I got my dentist to prescribe something. Turns out it's the same thing they use to treat genital herpes...you know, those happy people riding bikes at some exotic resort, and they're so happy because their genital herpes is under control. Yea! That stuff. Me, when I feel a cold sore coming on, I pump myself full of valtrex, slather my lips with abreva and herpecin, and swallow as many lysine pills as I can stomach.
 
I did a report of false medicines in College, don't remember much of it. Spent a lot of time on acupuncture.

I have cold sores on very rare occasion... does that mean I have mouth herpes?! Should I chill on the muff-divin?
 
seefresh said:
I did a report of false medicines in College, don't remember much of it. Spent a lot of time on acupuncture.

I have cold sores on very rare occasion... does that mean I have mouth herpes?! Should I chill on the muff-divin?

Yes, you have herpes simplex. They say 9/10 people have been exposed to it.

I don't think that the oral and the genital versions can be cross-contaminating, but I'm not 100% sure. But needless to say, I don't usually go into the bush when I have cold sore anyway.
 
I take an herbal for gout. I have tried everything that Drs prescribed and nothing worked. I had cortisone shots, pills and some helped a little and some really made me sick. But this herbal stuff really works and nothing else has come close.

My mother in law has terrible migraines and has taken everything for them (all the good drugs:cross: ) finally went to acupuncture and that has worked where everything else failed (or was habit causing).
I have been to western Dr.s that were so full of crap and I have been to eastern DOMs that were full of crap. I couldn't imagine putting faith in one more than another.

edit: I also take Emergen-c at any sign of a cold. I love that stuff and its much better priced than Airborn with similar potency.
 
Evan! said:
I don't think that the oral and the genital versions can be cross-contaminating, but I'm not 100% sure. But needless to say, I don't usually go into the bush when I have cold sore anyway.

Yep two completely different things. I got the mouth herpes also.
 
EdWort said:
Be sure to get some Milk Thistle. It is good for the liver.

Actually, the Milk-Thistle my company sells is supposed to be one of the purest forms available. You'd be surprised by the amount of garbage that some of these pills contain. We heard the manager of this division speak about the purity and potency.

And I did order some.
 
Find a protein drink/mix/shake you like and stock up on it. You can buy this stuff in 50lb bags. A good multi-vitamin will take care of most of the micronutrients your body needs. I suggest melatonin for night time if you need some help getting to sleep since you did say you got energy pills. Other than that, if you've got specific needs there are some products that do work but most of them are bogus and a waste of money.

I'll second the milk thistle suggestion, even though the liver is one of the few organs that can regenerate its own cells, giving it a helping hand is always nice. I use this argument when SWMBO is giving me a hard time about my drinking.
 
I worked in a Nature's Food Centre when I was in high school and we had all the different vitamins, herbal supplements, homeopathic remedies, etc... Most of them were useless but I used to buy the energy supplements with Ma Huang, they worked okay.

The things we sold the most of were golden seal, for passing drug tests, and Inositol powder which is a crystalline form of vitamin B, that stuff was used to cut cocaine...
 
I used to take daily multivitamins, until I read a study showing that these can increase the risk of prostate cancer... But hell, what doesn't these days? The thing is your body really does not need half the "supplements" you pump into it if you eat a balanced diet. If your eating Mc. Fatso half the time though, it might be a different story.

IMHO, after all my studies in physiology, pharmacology, nutrition, medicine, etc... I have seen that while some supplements may provide some benefit (Vit. B,C,E, etc.) most are just feeding the multi-billion dollar health food industry. If your natural product really does do what you say it does, then it has already been extracted, purified, and marketed by a pharmaceutical company. If not, well I guess some new age entrepreneur is just going to sell you a bottle of dried crap for $15 a pop....
 
I'm reading this book "Sacred and Herbal Healing Beers" and in chapter 2 the author raves about bee products. He cites many studies. In the olden days some cultures would take the whole hive and boil it even with the bees in it probably the queeny too. Imagine having a queen bee in your beer.

So I've just started two days ago taking 2tsps twice daily of wildflower honey. Am I crazy? I don't frequent the health food store for anything, but I liked the sound of this stuff so I'm gonna try it out. Here's a recipe at the end of chapter 2.

6 lbs wildflower honey
1 oz propolis
1 oz royal jelly
1 oz bee pollen
3 gal water
yeast

I guess its a mead.:mug:
 
The trick with taking honey for allergies is to be sure it is very local honey - so the pollens used by the bees closely match the pollens in your area - this is how you build up some immunity/resistance to the allergens. This works, wife has sworn by this method for years.
Also, a guy from Canada I met last year mentioned a pill you can buy over the counter in pretty much any drug store up there, would also be over the counter here but probably not as widely available - capsules contain just about every kind of pollen. Idea is you take these on a regimen for a few weeks just before the onset of allergy "season" and you have minimal/no allergy symptoms later because of the same "tollerance-building" effect as the honey. I wish I could remember the name of these ones!

Side question, for Cheese -- did you get the 'money-shot-pill" type supplement while you were on a shopping spree for herbals?
 
LouT said:
Side question, for Cheese -- did you get the 'money-shot-pill" type supplement while you were on a shopping spree for herbals?

I don't understand the question. Please rephrase.
 
Cheesefood said:
I don't understand the question. Please rephrase.

Google this: moneyshotpill.com

It's all done w/herbs, curious if you put together a packet of herbs for similar effect - you probably have access to people with the right knowledge to put such an herbal potion together....
 
LouT said:
Google this: moneyshotpill.com

It's all done w/herbs, curious if you put together a packet of herbs for similar effect - you probably have access to people with the right knowledge to put such an herbal potion together....

Site is down.
 
It supposedly boosts your volume to Peter North type quantities, comprende?
 
LouT said:
It supposedly boosts your volume to Peter North type quantities, comprende?

Yech! Why would I want that? So my balls could be swollen and sore? So my wife will say "I'm not letting you do that in my mouth if that much is coming out" ?? So I can completely ruin my t-shirts?
 
Cheesefood said:
Yech! Why would I want that? So my balls could be swollen and sore? So my wife will say "I'm not letting you do that in my mouth if that much is coming out" ?? So I can completely ruin my t-shirts?

And forget about the number of tube socks you'd run through!:D
 
Yeah, unless I was a porn star, I can see no practical use for such a thing. It's enough of a pain in the ass cleaning what I already got off her back.
 
Hey, it's all about prostatic health...
Also, it's supposedly a fountain of youth for women.
 
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