So I tried that new goose island specialty brew which is a belgian ale named 'Sophie'....since it is bottle conditioned I thought there might be some active yeast in the bottle. I poured the dregs of the bottle into an almost finished apple juice PET bottle along with a couple tablespoons of brown sugar. Next day the bottle was rock hard and foaming. Then I got out my old Mr. Beer which I use for bottling sometimes and added 2+ gallons of apple cider and a pound of brown sugar along with the starter I made from the harvested wheat. I have no idea what type of yeast the belgian ale had but interested to see what type of hard cider this produces. The ale had a lot of fruity taste to it so interested to see if that transfers over.