stoutaholic
Well-Known Member
Does anyone have any strong opinions about the best way of creating and pitching a starter specifically for a lager?
When creating a starter, it sounds like a lot of people say that they propogate the starter at 70 degrees F (or room temp).
I can understand this if they are pitching into 65 degree wort. But the best way to avoid esters in a lager is to pitch at fermentation temp. Pitching a 70 degree starter into a 48 degree or even 55 degree wort seems as though it would certainly shock the yeast and delay the start of fermentation. Also, if the yeast in the starter propagated at 70 degrees, they would have adapted to a 70 degree environment, not a 55 degree one.
Another question regards the best time at which to pitch. Some people say that they let the yeast complete fermentation in the starter, then cold crash, and then just pitch the yeast slurry. Again, this seems like you would be adding yeast that are going to be less than vigorous and unadapted to the environment in which they are going to be pitched.
So, the best starter would seem to be one at full krausen, since this would be a stage at which the number of yeast cells is high, they have built up sufficient reserves during respiration, and are actively multiplying. And it would seem that you would have to pitch the entire contents of the starter, because, given the nature of lager yeast, a lot of them would be sitting at the bottom of the starter.
Anyone have some thoughts on these different methods?
When creating a starter, it sounds like a lot of people say that they propogate the starter at 70 degrees F (or room temp).
I can understand this if they are pitching into 65 degree wort. But the best way to avoid esters in a lager is to pitch at fermentation temp. Pitching a 70 degree starter into a 48 degree or even 55 degree wort seems as though it would certainly shock the yeast and delay the start of fermentation. Also, if the yeast in the starter propagated at 70 degrees, they would have adapted to a 70 degree environment, not a 55 degree one.
Another question regards the best time at which to pitch. Some people say that they let the yeast complete fermentation in the starter, then cold crash, and then just pitch the yeast slurry. Again, this seems like you would be adding yeast that are going to be less than vigorous and unadapted to the environment in which they are going to be pitched.
So, the best starter would seem to be one at full krausen, since this would be a stage at which the number of yeast cells is high, they have built up sufficient reserves during respiration, and are actively multiplying. And it would seem that you would have to pitch the entire contents of the starter, because, given the nature of lager yeast, a lot of them would be sitting at the bottom of the starter.
Anyone have some thoughts on these different methods?