My first batch in almost 20 years: Milk Stout

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polvofiloso

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I've been away from home brewing (though not away from drinking craft beers and friends' home brews) for almost 20 years. Way back in the day I loaned my equipment to a buddy, we drifted apart, and I sort of lost my stuff in the process. Always wanted to get back into it and glad that I finally have. My wife (who's been my craft beer drinking partner for the past 15 years) is fully on-board too, we're jumping in to this together.

While I did brew a little in a past life, it was only a few extract batches, and it was so long ago that I have to consider as beginner status. In fact some of the mistakes I made today reinforce that. But the beer is in the fermenter and despite my best attempts to eff everything up, it looks good and the fermentation has started so I'm stoked.

My wife and I went to the LHBS yesterday and I bought a starter equipment kit. I was glad to have a well-stocked store close by so I could make some substitutions to the kit. For instance I wanted to have some future expandability so I swapped out the included 8-gallon kettle for a 15 gallon one, and bigger wort chiller to go with it. I also ditched the included American Light Ale ingredient kit with something more up my alley, one called Jim Baumann's Milk Stout (named after the store manager--MoreBeer in Riverside, CA).

So today my lovely brewer's assistant and I got everything out and brewed up my first batch in almost 20 years. Had a couple of issues:

1. I didn't start out with enough water for the 5-gallon batch. Pretty bonehead move on my part. Instructions said to start with 6 gallons. I filled up the bottling bucket to the 5 gallon mark. It didn't have a 6 gallon mark so I guessed how high the next hash mark should be. When I was done with the boil and transfered it to the fermenter and it only came out to about 4 gallons I then figured out that each hash mark on the bucket was only a half gallon. Duhh.... And on top of that I think I lost a lot more due to boil-off than the recipe anticipated.

2. I thought I was being clever by buying such a big kettle and wort chiller, so I could step up to bigger batches later. Only problem was that now the top 2/3 of the wort chiller were above the level of the wort. So it took a little longer than it probably should have to cool it.

3. In my excitement coupled with the slow cooling issue I think I may have pitched the yeast while the wort was still a little too hot. I've been worried about it but now I see fermentation starting so I hope its OK. The kit came with White Labs liquid American ale yeast.

I remedied the wort shortage by boiling up some additional water, cooling it, and adding it to the fermenter as quickly as I could. I was as sanitary as I could be about it, I hope it turns out OK.

All in all it was a great time and we're jonesin' to do another batch. If the home brew store was open today we probably would have ran down and grabbed another extract kit to piggyback another batch. This was my first time brewing outside and I loved it. The Camp Chef cooker I bought at the LHBS kicked butt. And I was able to run the chiller run-off right in to the swimming pool rather than down the sink drain, so it wouldn't go to waste.

Not sure what the etiquette is on starting a thread about a batch of beer, but I was pretty excited about it so here it is. I promise I won't subject you guys to this with every batch!

I took a few photos, I'll see if I can attach some...

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BTW, I don't remember from my first time around, of the hops and crud sticking to the side of the kettle so much like in that first photo below. Anybody got any thoughts on that? It was a VERY vigorous boil. I kept turning the gas down a little more and a little more, but it was rolling pretty good for most of the time. Is there such a thing as TOO vigorous of a boil? If so, I probably did it. Probably another by-product of small batch in a big kettle. Any ideas if this will affect the results much? Seems like it could possibly result in under-utilizing the bittering of the hops. On the other hand, it was nice having it there rather than draining into my fermenter.

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That cruddy crap on the side of the kettle is normal and happens every time I boil. I usually just hose it off while its still wet after draining the kettle. Same will happen in the fermenter when the krausen rises to the top. Glad to have you back.

beerloaf
 
I use a pretty rigorous boil myself. The only downside in my mind is the additional water needed due to boil off and the increased risk of boil over.
 
beerloaf said:
That cruddy crap on the side of the kettle is normal and happens every time I boil. I usually just hose it off while its still wet after draining the kettle. Same will happen in the fermenter when the krausen rises to the top. Glad to have you back.

beerloaf

Thanks beerloaf, yeah it came off easily enough.
 
Well despite my best effort to murder my yeast in too-hot wort, they're kicking ass this morning! Might need a blow-off tube. I left my Lovely Brewing Assistant in charge, as she has the day off today.

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Just got a text from my LBA: "Had to go to the bucket as the foam was coming out the top of the pressure thingy" LOL...told her she didn't need such a huge bucket of water but it'll work! :)

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Yes! Early Broncos are one of my other obsessions. You too?

My pick up line to my future wife in 1998 "What year is your Bronco?".

I HAD a 67, that we dropped a 351 in, with 33" BFG's, 3 inch lift, that was near perfect. My brother rolled it three times and it is gone! :mad:

She had 73 with a 302, 4 on the tree, uncut, that her mom sold at an auction! :confused:

I am always on the look out for one, but they are becoming more and more expensive

Great vehicles!
 
nice thread if your using a pot with such a large top it's going to cause more to evaporate during boiling which is probably part of your issue. As for your wort chiller, just make sure the water going into it is really cold. I don't know how cold your tap water is but consider getting a submersible aquarium pump and then using ice water. the colder the water you can run through, the quicker you can chill it. otherwise everything else looks good! Love the pool!
 
Those little buggers are working hard!



Looks like the krausen has fallen a little while I was at work today. Its amazing how much turbulence the fermentation creates in there. Sorry for the crappy video, I shot it with my iphone, using a small LED flashlight for lighting. Next time I'll turn the camera sideways LOL...

My wife and I decided to get another batch in the pipeline fairly soon. This one, being a stout, might need a little time to peak. So I had her pick one out and I stopped by MoreBeer on the way home tonight and picked up another fermenter and a kit for "Jim Rossi's Honey Pale Ale". Not really my favorite style but it should make it into bottles a few weeks before this stout does. We might brew it tomorrow after work.
 
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My pick up line to my future wife in 1998 "What year is your Bronco?".

I HAD a 67, that we dropped a 351 in, with 33" BFG's, 3 inch lift, that was near perfect. My brother rolled it three times and it is gone! :mad:

She had 73 with a 302, 4 on the tree, uncut, that her mom sold at an auction! :confused:

I am always on the look out for one, but they are becoming more and more expensive

Great vehicles!

I have the boneyard you saw outback, plus one that runs (my wife's) and one that's my baby but its currently a basket case. My wife's has a fuel injected 5.8l, full width axles, a few other goodies. Basically set up as a pre-runner. Mine is more of a rock crawler with 1-ton axles, 3-speed transfer case, more cut up, it also has an EFI 5.8L. Homebrewing is a much cheaper hobby LOL...
 
So I've been doing quite a bit of reading on this site (I'm addicted) and I've identified a couple of issues that may end up giving some off-flavors in this batch. I welcome any thoughts...

First, I steep the grains a little too long and hot. I took them out right at boil. I've read on here that I can expect some astringency due to tannins released into the wort by having the grains in there at too-high temperatures. I'm hoping it won't be too bad. There's a lot of other flavor going on in a stout that I'm hoping this won't be too problematic.

Second, my fermentation was a little too warm in the beginning. It hovered around 78 initially. I set the thermostat in the house lower, and over the first couple of days of fermentation it slowly dropped to about 72. I've read that the higher fermentation temperature can lead to more alcohol-like "hot-ness" in the beer. Again I hope there's enough other flavors, body, etc., in this stout that even if it does get some of that it won't be too bad. The yeast is White Labs 004.

I'd appreciate any thoughts on either of these issues! I'm still gonna drink it no matter what though :)
 
Love the shot gun in the corner. Ever brew room needs a shot gun in the corner in my opinion.

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Love the shot gun in the corner. Ever brew room needs a shot gun in the corner in my opinion.

+1

Yeah I didn't notice the boomstick in the shot until after I uploaded it LOL...Maybe I'll name this brew Shotgun Stout or something like that.

hmm...
Scatter-gun Stout
Smooth Bore Stout
12 Gauge Stout
Pump Action Stout (sounds a little too porno)
870 Stout
Cold Dead Hands Stout

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Payoff! Just poured my first pint of this one, my first batch in almost 20 years! It needs a little more conditioning still but I couldn't wait. It tastes awesome!

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Payoff! Just poured my first pint of this one, my first batch in almost 20 years! It needs a little more conditioning still but I couldn't wait. It tastes awesome!

That looks tasty! I have my 1st stout in the primary right now has one more week till we go to bottling.

Off topic: Is that an older 60's/early 70's Bronco rusting away back there in that pic?
 
scottywags said:
Nevermind I see that the Broncos have already been spied...:drunk:

Yeah there are three Early Broncos back there. I've got one in the garage that's actually in one piece and runs :)
 
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