andrewmaixner
Well-Known Member
TLDR: What is the best yeast and temperature if I want to turn a store-juice-based cider around in one month? (I force carb)
For people with attention spans:
I started out my cider making with just straight juice and S-04 / Nottingham. I found that this went fairly slowly (3 weeks + to reach FG at 68F). I started adding nutrient to increase this rate and reduce bad smells. Experimented with various levels of added sugar and (very) small amounts of molasses for flavor, color, strength.
My latest batch I did 2.5 gal each of straight 1.052 juice, with nutrient, a pinch of tannin, and Cote Des Blancs yeast in one as it is supposed to leave a good amount of fruit flavor behind, and T-58 in another on a whim (I had heard that it could make a good cider). Temperature was 70F for both, both finished within 10 days at about 0.998 +/- .002
The Cote Des Blancs one, at 45 days now, has a fairly unpleasant aroma that might be sulfuriric but is most probably butyric. This obviously is not acceptable. I'll let it age another month+ and try it again.
The t-58 at 45 days isn't unpleasant per-se, but I'm also going to have to wait a while and try it again.
Obviously, both of these attempts failed to meet my requirements.
I have heard that Red Star Pasteur is a very clean yeast. Any anecdotes about quick turn-around time?
If all else fails, I'll just stick with S-04. It is not enjoyable to serve a new batch to SWMBO and receive a "yuck ugh I can't drink that" in response :smack:. I already started a 5gal batch of my proven recipe.
For people with attention spans:
I started out my cider making with just straight juice and S-04 / Nottingham. I found that this went fairly slowly (3 weeks + to reach FG at 68F). I started adding nutrient to increase this rate and reduce bad smells. Experimented with various levels of added sugar and (very) small amounts of molasses for flavor, color, strength.
My latest batch I did 2.5 gal each of straight 1.052 juice, with nutrient, a pinch of tannin, and Cote Des Blancs yeast in one as it is supposed to leave a good amount of fruit flavor behind, and T-58 in another on a whim (I had heard that it could make a good cider). Temperature was 70F for both, both finished within 10 days at about 0.998 +/- .002
The Cote Des Blancs one, at 45 days now, has a fairly unpleasant aroma that might be sulfuriric but is most probably butyric. This obviously is not acceptable. I'll let it age another month+ and try it again.
The t-58 at 45 days isn't unpleasant per-se, but I'm also going to have to wait a while and try it again.
Obviously, both of these attempts failed to meet my requirements.
I have heard that Red Star Pasteur is a very clean yeast. Any anecdotes about quick turn-around time?
If all else fails, I'll just stick with S-04. It is not enjoyable to serve a new batch to SWMBO and receive a "yuck ugh I can't drink that" in response :smack:. I already started a 5gal batch of my proven recipe.