I agree with sundowner. Mash pH is really not as big of a concern as RA/chloride:sulfate ratios. My water pH is relatively high, and I've used 5.2 stabilizer in pilseners before without getting the "harsh, minerally" flavor that cefmel is referring to. Dropping 300 bills on a damn pH meter, when you can fairly easily (assuming you know your brewing water chemistry) fine-tune your water with brewing salts, is bordering on insane. Especially when 5.2 does a relatively good job in my experience. Lately, since I got my water chemistry report, I've been getting a little more into the details...using the nomograph and JP's mash RA excel spreadsheet, I'm able to figure out how much extra calcium I need, and then adjust my RA accordingly, depending on the style/SRM. If you can get into this process, then 5.2's relatively obsolete, but if you don't want to go through the trouble, and you don't know your brewing water chemistry, then the phosphate buffers in the 5.2, when used in the correct amounts are a pretty good way of keeping your pH in check to assure good conversion. But if you wanna drop $300 on a pH meter and get all anal about pH, then hey...