Happy Trails Turbo Mead - The Story Thus Far

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Happy Trails Turbo Mead – The Story thus Far

For a large variety of reasons and encouragement of a good friend, I decided to experiment with one of the so called ‘Turbo Yeasts’. I have always wanted to make mead so I decided that this would just the ticket. I have had mead that another one of the friends made in the past and it was just not good.

Since we have a lot of apples and crab apples growing here, I decided to use apple juice instead of water and make a cyser. The federal agricultural research station developed many varieties of apples. Many of these were never commercialized. One variety called Trail Apple-Crab was ready for harvesting when I got the itch.

I picked several large buckets of apples and put them through an ancient centrifugal juice extractor; seeds, peels and all. I boiled the juice (it WILL clear as this is how I make apple juice and when cleared it is as clear as the commercial apple juice you get in the store) and skimmed all the scum. I visited a local honey producer and bought a pail of honey.

Recipe:
7kg white honey
700ml white grape juice concentrate
1.5l white sugar
16.5l trail apple juice
1 pack of Liquor Quik turbo yeast

Note that no yeast nutrient was used. It is supposed to be in the packet. Also, I did not add bentonite.

August 21, 2011 - I gently heated some juice and added the honey and sugar. It was stirred until it was all dissolved. This was transferred to a primary fermenting vessel, added the grape concentrate and topped up with the rest of the apple juice. I measured the gravity and it was 1.150 with a potential 20% ABV. Very sweet and almost syrup like.

August 22, 2011 – Noticed a slight yeasty smell and some bubbles forming. The yeast appears to be waking up and smelling the sugar.

August 23 -> 28, 2011 – What I called near explosive fermentation was in action. The yeast packet said to stir the batch every day. When I did this, it foamed up like a warm root beer.

August 31, 2011 – Aggressive fermentation seems to have subsided. Tested the gravity and it was now 1.076 with a potential ABV of about 10%.

September 4, 2011 – Fermentation has slowed considerably. I measured gravity to be 1.068. So I figured, now is the time to rack into a carbouy. The taste was complex, very yeasty of course and sweet. As it stands now, it would make a damn fine winter drink. Heat it up with a clove, cinnamon stick, maybe an allspice berry and stiff shot of rum. Serve outside in your shorts when it is -35c.

September 13, 2011 – It is still slowly fermenting as evidenced by the air lock. The gravity is now 1.060. It is very cloudy. I am confident that I can get it to be crystal clear with some finings and mechanical filter but I am not worried about that or even bothered that it might not clear.

So, that is the story thus far. I am not sure how long I will let it ferment. At some point I will be happy to have a strong mead that is sweet. If it gets to 15% in a reasonable amount of time, I will stop it and go onto preparing it for bottling.

This is my first post to this forum which I stumbled upon just the other day. I will update this as time goes by.
 
I've not been impressed with turbo yeast when I've used them.

In this case it looks stuck. The one thing that is consistent about turbo yeast is that they are rapid. This is now more than 3 weeks old and still only at 12% ABV. I'll be surprised if it does much more.

Endeavor to persevere!
Medsen
 
I've not been impressed with turbo yeast when I've used them.

In this case it looks stuck. The one thing that is consistent about turbo yeast is that they are rapid. This is now more than 3 weeks old and still only at 12% ABV. I'll be surprised if it does much more.

Endeavor to persevere!
Medsen
Thanks for the commeents.

This is the first time I have used the stuff so I have no idea what to expect. I am pretty sure the batch is still fermenting albeit slowly. There is still a lot of bubble activity in the airlock. I am not in a great hurry and my goal was never to produce a high alcohol drink. My plan is to leave it be for another couple of weeks and see what it look likes then. From my perspective, right now I currently have a pleasant sweet drink that can easily be augmented with other ingredients. Much more than I was expecting to be honest.
 
It sounds like it is still chugging along slowly. I would put it in a closet somewhere and check on it in a few months. You might be suprised how much the gravity might drop and also how clear it will get with time.
 
September 20, 2011 - The brew continues to slowly ferment. The bubbling in the air lock is quite regular. Gravity has dropped to 1.056. I drew a sample. As before it is very sweet but not cloyingly so. There is a strong honey-apple flvour to it. I can also taste the grape at the very end. I am really liking the idea of making it a hot drink as mentioned before. It is +8c very windy and wet here today. A nice warm mug would be welcome. I will continue waiting though.
 
I used the turbo yeast in a imperial IPA.
Didnt ever get what the packet said it would do....

I found with the beer it took like 7 weeks after fermentation was done before it cleared.
But after it cleared and it aged awhile...
Wow...The yeast brought out the flavor of all the malts...it became a very extreme malty ipa.

So, Yes i belive it is a overpriced yeast. Do i think in the end result does it produce good results....Yes....But time, it will take allot of it!

I know mead and beer are like apples and oranges...but i think the clarity and flavor compounds the yeast add would be relevant to mead...
 
Octobr 21, 2011 - Time to stabalize and start the clarification. The SG is 'stuck' at 1.050 although there is still indications of slow fermentation. The taste is definitely sweet as mentioned. But I am happy with it. There is a good flavour profile and a good kick of alcohol. I am debating on whether to add some spices to it before bottling or not. I think a small amount of clove, cinamon and nutmeg would add to it. Allspice or cardamom may be interesting as well. Probably will bottle it plain and experiment with the spices when drinking.
 
October 31, 2011 - Happy Trails Turbo Mead v1.0 is in the bottle. I used a 2 part turbo clear and ran the mead through a fine filter. The result was a crystal clear product. With an SG of 1.05, it is sweet. Taste is of apple, honey, and grapes in that order. I am very pleased with it. It compares favourably with ice wine actually. I have certainly had ice wines that were a lot worse (to be fair, most ice wines were much better). So far it has received very favourable reviews from the tasters. This is a keeper.
 
I would like to give this a try... this would be my first mead as well.

Could you maybe write out a quick recipe/ procedure for the making of this? Mash and boil time and whatnot?

Thanks!
 
Mash and boil time and whatnot?

Only advice I have is to start reading and do some more research on mead making. I jumped into mead after brewing thinking "how different could this be?", and have since learned that it is very different.

Also, there is no mash with mead.....honey is a fermentable sugar, no need to convert starches to sugar :rockin:
 
Well I'd guess that if the OP used a turbo that's rated at the 20% mark it would have been possible to have managed it differently to achieve something close.

To start with, heating apple juice often causes problems with pectin hazing, but also gives the juice a "cooked" taste. The whole point of not heating it is to reserve some/all of the "fresh" taste of juiced apples.

Equally, while the turbo's normally do have nutrient mixed in already, it's possible that the ferment had munched it's way through the available nutrient, hence it seeming to stick at 1.050 (which is at the upper end of sweetness/measurements when testing commercially available sweet meads).

Something like mixing the juice/honey, pitching the yeast, then aerating it daily until it gets to the 1/3rd sugar break, and then adding something for additional nutrient - maybe FermaidO or at least some boiled bread yeast.

He mentions a drop of about 100 points of gravity, which would represent about 13.5% ABV, and while it doesn't always, the alcohol hot taste will mellow out.

Turbo's aren't usually meant for the taste, more for just fermenting sugar to produce a "wash" that can be distilled for neutral alcohol (license required for that in most places/countries). Plus a little research found that most of them are designed to go to about 14 to 16% ABV, with a few rated higher, so it probably would have been just as effective to use a champagne yeast, proper nutrition/aeration etc.

Though if he's happy with his results, then that's just as good eh !
 
The recipe is outlined in the very first post of this thread. I gave a bit of diary as time went in further posts. I followed my nose making this and treated it as a regular wine from grape juice. I do not have an exact method or procedure.

I did heat the crabapple juice to boiling. I never have had a problem doing this making apple cider. My cider always comes out crystal clear. I am aware of the problem of pectic hazing. I always filter my wines or ciders.

I would not use the 'turbo' yeast next time. Champagne yeast will do the trick. There is no hot alcohol taste to this mead.

It is very sweet. I was not aware that there were commercially sweet meads until I talked to a friend who had visited the UK recently had exactly that.

I am pleased with the results. This is my first mead. It is not what I had thought I would end up with but am still quite happy with the results. And that is what it is all about, eh?
 
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