I talked to my old judo ( hopefully future) instructor today and we are gonna swap some homebrews tonight. I am taking him 3 each of my first batch ( red ale) a centenniel blond...my first all grain attempt ( pretty good if I do say so) and the double chocolate oatmeal stout.................He told me he was gonna give me a 12 pack of mixed stuff BUT he said he had some belgium dubbles he was gonna send with me.. I think I may be getting the better end of the swap!!! Also anything I like he is gonna teach me to brew!